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Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:52:32 -000 |
Terry Pinnell wrote:
> I'm aiming to make a birthday card from a folded sheet of A4 'Premium
> inkjet card'. But as I recall getting poor results last time, I'm
> testing it with the attached image using various 'paper type' choices
> on my Epson C82, shown in the other attachment.
>
> But I've printed out samples with just about all of these types, and
> not one of them is giving a result similar to the original. Or similar
> to a sample on glossy photo paper.
>
> A scan of the 9 card results and 1 glossy result is attached, although
> that may not prove very helpful, as it doesn't look realistic either!
> In particular the card looks purple, but the original just has a very
> faint purplish tinge.
>
> The problems with the samples theme selves however are hopefully
> clear. For example, the red-orange of the piece of the 'n' in 'Ethan'
> looks plain orange in the card results, just the same as the 'a'. And
> the skin tone seems too dark.
>
> Can anyone offer any insights into the underlying cause and/or
> practical advice please?
Get your self to SVP Terry http://svp.co.uk/index.php.
And buy some Double sided matt 210 grm atlas photo paper. It will give good
vibrant colours and unlike cheap gloss will not look mottled.
--
Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.
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Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:16:38 -050 |
Terry Pinnell wrote:
> The major problem I had was getting the images and gaps positioned
> precisely for the folds. In PSP 8 I've never properly understood why
> the Print Preview never seems to give me an accurate representation of
> what I'll actually get. In the end I resorted to trial/error, using
> b/w economy mode. If anyone has any practical advice on this aspect
> I'd appreciate it please.
Your printer probably has non-printable margins used for gripping
and driving the paper. These are fixed in the printer driver.
PSP is only allowed to use the printable area of the paper and
that is what you see in the preview, not the whole 8.5 x 11 inch
or A4 sheet of paper. By printing one tall and thin image and
one short and wide image in Fit To Page mode you can once and
for all measure the non-printing margins for your printer. They
may be different on each side of the paper. Whatever they are,
once you know them you can take them into account when positioning
items relative to the edges of the paper (rather than relative
to the edge of the printable area as PSP does). You do this
simply by knowing where the printable area starts and stops
relative to the edges of your paper.
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Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:06:47 +000 |
t"Trev" <trevbowden@dsl.pipex.cominvalid> wrote:
>
>Terry Pinnell wrote:
>> I'm aiming to make a birthday card from a folded sheet of A4 'Premium
>> inkjet card'. But as I recall getting poor results last time, I'm
>> testing it with the attached image using various 'paper type' choices
>> on my Epson C82, shown in the other attachment.
>>
>> But I've printed out samples with just about all of these types, and
>> not one of them is giving a result similar to the original. Or similar
>> to a sample on glossy photo paper.
>>
>> A scan of the 9 card results and 1 glossy result is attached, although
>> that may not prove very helpful, as it doesn't look realistic either!
>> In particular the card looks purple, but the original just has a very
>> faint purplish tinge.
>>
>> The problems with the samples theme selves however are hopefully
>> clear. For example, the red-orange of the piece of the 'n' in 'Ethan'
>> looks plain orange in the card results, just the same as the 'a'. And
>> the skin tone seems too dark.
>>
>> Can anyone offer any insights into the underlying cause and/or
>> practical advice please?
>
>Get your self to SVP Terry http://svp.co.uk/index.php.
>
>And buy some Double sided matt 210 grm atlas photo paper. It will give good
>vibrant colours and unlike cheap gloss will not look mottled.
Thanks Trev. I may give that a try, but I do personally prefer the
vibrancy of gloss. Still looking for a UK supplier of double-sided.
Just bought 25 sheets of A4, 150g 'Photo Gloss' from
www.photopaperdirect.com, but that is matt on the back, albeit claimed
to be printable.
Meanwhile, after much frustration I eventually made my finished card
by printing images on the glossy side of my original paper, like this:
.-------------------------------------.
|.----------------. .----------------.|
|| Top of image | | Top of image ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| Back | | Front ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|'----------------' '----------------'|
|.----------------. .----------------.|
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|| | | ||
|| Inside Left | | Inside Left ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| | | ||
|| Top of image | | Top of image ||
|'----------------' '----------------'|
'-------------------------------------'
I folded it (vertically and horizontally) *before* printing, which I
felt would minimise the risk of spoiling the result by the
considerable handling/squeezing necessary to get sharpish creases.
The disadvantage of this was that the slightly raised creases had a
little ink on them in places. (Tipp-Ex to the rescue!)
The major problem I had was getting the images and gaps positioned
precisely for the folds. In PSP 8 I've never properly understood why
the Print Preview never seems to give me an accurate representation of
what I'll actually get. In the end I resorted to trial/error, using
b/w economy mode. If anyone has any practical advice on this aspect
I'd appreciate it please.
--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:56:09 -000 |
Terry Pinnell wrote:
> t"Trev" <trevbowden@dsl.pipex.cominvalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> Terry Pinnell wrote:
>>> I'm aiming to make a birthday card from a folded sheet of A4
>>> 'Premium inkjet card'. But as I recall getting poor results last
>>> time, I'm testing it with the attached image using various 'paper
>>> type' choices on my Epson C82, shown in the other attachment.
>>>
>>> But I've printed out samples with just about all of these types,
and
>>> not one of them is giving a result similar to the original. Or
>>> similar to a sample on glossy photo paper.
>>>
>>> A scan of the 9 card results and 1 glossy result is attached,
>>> although that may not prove very helpful, as it doesn't look
>>> realistic either! In particular the card looks purple, but the
>>> original just has a very faint purplish tinge.
>>>
>>> The problems with the samples theme selves however are hopefully
>>> clear. For example, the red-orange of the piece of the 'n' in
>>> 'Ethan' looks plain orange in the card results, just the same as
>>> the 'a'. And the skin tone seems too dark.
>>>
>>> Can anyone offer any insights into the underlying cause and/or
>>> practical advice please?
>>
>> Get your self to SVP Terry http://svp.co.uk/index.php.
>>
>> And buy some Double sided matt 210 grm atlas photo paper. It will
>> give good vibrant colours and unlike cheap gloss will not look
>> mottled.
>
> Thanks Trev. I may give that a try, but I do personally prefer the
> vibrancy of gloss. Still looking for a UK supplier of double-sided.
> Just bought 25 sheets of A4, 150g 'Photo Gloss' from
> www.photopaperdirect.com, but that is matt on the back, albeit claimed
> to be printable.
>
in my Experiance low cost gloss papers always look mottled and scratched
Plain card lets the ink soak in and loses Vibrancy Satin a silk papers look
very good Mat does too but Not as good But if your Making 4 Fold. Your
going to need thin photo paper but not double sided as Everything is printed
on the one side. For A5 folded then you need double sided for the verse Or
do like those Charity cards do and add a Sheet of plane folded paper to the
inside for greeting Verse ect.
My newest printer will do the 4 fold or A4 folded in 2 and sort the page
order for printing. Even the inverse for up to 16 sheet posters Thanks Hp
> Meanwhile, after much frustration I eventually made my finished card
> by printing images on the glossy side of my original paper, like this:
>
> .-------------------------------------.
> |.----------------. .----------------.|
> || Top of image | | Top of image ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || Back | | Front ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> |'----------------' '----------------'|
> |.----------------. .----------------.|
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || Inside Left | | Inside Left ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || | | ||
> || Top of image | | Top of image ||
> |'----------------' '----------------'|
> '-------------------------------------'
>
> I folded it (vertically and horizontally) *before* printing, which I
> felt would minimise the risk of spoiling the result by the
> considerable handling/squeezing necessary to get sharpish creases.
> The disadvantage of this was that the slightly raised creases had a
> little ink on them in places. (Tipp-Ex to the rescue!)
>
> The major problem I had was getting the images and gaps positioned
> precisely for the folds. In PSP 8 I've never properly understood why
> the Print Preview never seems to give me an accurate representation of
> what I'll actually get. In the end I resorted to trial/error, using
> b/w economy mode. If anyone has any practical advice on this aspect
> I'd appreciate it please.
--
Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.
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Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:50:15 -050 |
Terry Pinnell wrote:
> The major problem I had was getting the images and gaps positioned
> precisely for the folds. In PSP 8 I've never properly understood why
> the Print Preview never seems to give me an accurate representation of
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