Re: PSP8 Triptych script... final, todo, completo!

>JoeB said,..........

> Hi Howard,
>
> First, let me say that this has been a fun challenge and learning
> experience!
>
> However, I have to say that I have tested this version and it suffers
> from the same problem I mentioned in an earlier post - i.e., if the
> image itself contains some pure white stuff that is contiguous with the
> background white when the image is split, then you don't get rectangular
> panels with rectangular borders because the selection also selects some
> of the white in the image.  In that earlier post I posted an example of
> the problem.
>
> Since then, however, I have figured out a workaround that works with any
> image, even one with lots of white in it (and I'll post my test image,
> un_triptyched so you can experiment with it if you like).
>
> This edit of your script also makes use of selection borders, but it
> expands the selection first by one pixel then adds the border inside,
> which seems to prevent there being a black pixel missing from the
> corners (which happens if only the Selection Borders/Outside is used).
>
> It also relies on first duplicating the image layer, floodfilling the
> bottom layer with white, then just working with the upper layer.  That
> way, after the image is split, the selection of its background is based
> on the pixel 1,1 position being transparent (opacity) so doesn't impinge
> on the image parts, so inverting the selection gives a clean,
> rectangular selection of the three panels.  Then the selection is
> expanded, an inner border selected and filled with black.  If Drop
> Shadow is selected in the script then this is added.  If Drop Shadow
> hasn't been selected, it's not.
>
> The edited script should work on any version of PSP, and provide
> rectangular panels with a one pixel black outline (although of course it
> can be edited to make it 2 pixels or whatever) and not cause issues of
> parts of the image are pure white contiguous with the background.
>
> I get caught up in this stuff, and just had to try to see if I could
> overcome that contiguous white pixel issue! :-)
>
<<<SNIP>>>>>

JoeB,

That fixes the problem I was having with white backgrounds, the same as you 
speak of.

Is there a way to have your 1 pixel border to be adjustable, as with the 
original script?

peace, T 

"t evans" <dodahman.spam@swbell.net> wrote in
news:47ba4ed6_2@cnews:
>>JoeB said,..........
> 
>> Hi Howard,
>>
>> First, let me say that this has been a fun challenge and learning
>> experience!
>>
>> However, I have to say that I have tested this version and it suffers
>> from the same problem I mentioned in an earlier post - i.e., if the
>> image itself contains some pure white stuff that is contiguous with
>> the background white when the image is split, then you don't get
>> rectangular panels with rectangular borders because the selection
>> also selects some of the white in the image.  In that earlier post I
>> posted an example of the problem.
>>
>> Since then, however, I have figured out a workaround that works with
>> any image, even one with lots of white in it (and I'll post my test
>> image, un_triptyched so you can experiment with it if you like).
>>
>> This edit of your script also makes use of selection borders, but it
>> expands the selection first by one pixel then adds the border inside,
>> which seems to prevent there being a black pixel missing from the
>> corners (which happens if only the Selection Borders/Outside is
>> used). 
>>
>> It also relies on first duplicating the image layer, floodfilling the
>> bottom layer with white, then just working with the upper layer. 
>> That way, after the image is split, the selection of its background
>> is based on the pixel 1,1 position being transparent (opacity) so
>> doesn't impinge on the image parts, so inverting the selection gives
>> a clean, rectangular selection of the three panels.  Then the
>> selection is expanded, an inner border selected and filled with
>> black.  If Drop Shadow is selected in the script then this is added. 
>> If Drop Shadow hasn't been selected, it's not.
>>
>> The edited script should work on any version of PSP, and provide
>> rectangular panels with a one pixel black outline (although of course
>> it can be edited to make it 2 pixels or whatever) and not cause
>> issues of parts of the image are pure white contiguous with the
>> background. 
>>
>> I get caught up in this stuff, and just had to try to see if I could
>> overcome that contiguous white pixel issue! :-)
>>
> <<<SNIP>>>>>
> 
> JoeB,
> 
> That fixes the problem I was having with white backgrounds, the same
> as you speak of.
> 
> Is there a way to have your 1 pixel border to be adjustable, as with
> the original script?
> 
> peace, T 
Actually, the original script didn't allow for changing the small 
borders around the image segments/panels as far as I recall.  However, 
here is a modification that makes both the Expand Selection dialogue box 
and the Select Selection Borders dialogue box open so that you can 
change the size of the black outline around the panels.  By default, it 
is set to one pixel in both dialogue boxes.  If you change the first one 
(for example, to 2 pixels) then you have to change the second one to 2 
pixels also when it shows up next.
Regards,
JoeB

"JoeB" <mymail@myserver.com> wrote in message 
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> "t evans" <dodahman.spam@swbell.net> wrote in
news:47ba4ed6_2@cnews:
>

>>
>> JoeB,
>>
>> That fixes the problem I was having with white backgrounds, the same
>> as you speak of.
>>
>> Is there a way to have your 1 pixel border to be adjustable, as with
>> the original script?
>>
>> peace, T

> JoeB said.........
> Actually, the original script didn't allow for changing the small
> borders around the image segments/panels as far as I recall.  However,
> here is a modification that makes both the Expand Selection dialogue box
> and the Select Selection Borders dialogue box open so that you can
> change the size of the black outline around the panels.  By default, it
> is set to one pixel in both dialogue boxes.  If you change the first one
> (for example, to 2 pixels) then you have to change the second one to 2
> pixels also when it shows up next.
>
> Regards,
>
> JoeB
>
>

I awoke this morning and tried your new version.  I use pspX.  Works great 
with the border dialog box option.

Thanks for your help and to Howard for coming up with the script.  I will 
have to learn scripting :-).  I am getting ready for work, but have a simple 
question -  is there a need to have BOTH dialogue boxes open?  I mean, if 
the first border is adjustable, is there a need for a second adjustable 
border?

peace, T

Might as well post my version of Howard's PSP 8 script.  This should work in 
any version of PSP, and lets the user choose the width of the borders around 
the panels.  Suz
Howard Dickson wrote:
> t evans wrote:
>> "JoeB" <mymail@myserver.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9A48E55F24BE7JoeB@207.107.16.194...
>>> "t evans" <dodahman.spam@swbell.net> wrote in
news:47ba4ed6_2@cnews:
>>>
>>
>>>> JoeB,
>>>>
>>>> That fixes the problem I was having with white backgrounds,
the
>>>> same as you speak of.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to have your 1 pixel border to be adjustable,
as
>>>> with the original script?
>>>>
>>>> peace, T
>>
>>> JoeB said.........
>>> Actually, the original script didn't allow for changing the small
>>> borders around the image segments/panels as far as I recall.
>>> However, here is a modification that makes both the Expand
>>> Selection dialogue box and the Select Selection Borders dialogue
>>> box open so that you can change the size of the black outline
>>> around the panels.  By default, it is set to one pixel in both
>>> dialogue boxes.  If you change the first one (for example, to 2
>>> pixels) then you have to change the second one to 2 pixels also
>>> when it shows up next.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> JoeB
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I awoke this morning and tried your new version.  I use pspX.  Works
>> great with the border dialog box option.
>>
>> Thanks for your help and to Howard for coming up with the script.  I
>> will have to learn scripting :-).  I am getting ready for work, but
>> have a simple question -  is there a need to have BOTH dialogue
>> boxes open?  I mean, if the first border is adjustable, is there a
>> need for a second adjustable border?
>>
>> peace, T
>>
>>
>>
> Remember folks, there are PSP9 & PSPX-X2 versions available that work
> just fine, and you can download them here...
> http://www.sheilsoft.com/psp/triptych.htm
>
> This was only a PSP8 version problem which I wasn't going to support,
> hence all the recent shennanigans... still, it keeps you busy! :)
>
> Rgds,
> Howard 

Howard Dickson <howard@REMOVEsheilsoft.com> wrote in
news:47ba90fe_2@cnews:

> JoeB,
> 
> Thanks for all the hard work you've put in on the PSP8 version of my 
> script. As you can probably tell, I don't like PSP8! I'll get round to 
> doing a final, final version eventually... I suppose, but at the moment, 
> we have builders in, and our house looks like a bomb site, hence all the 
> distractions recently. :(
> 
> Thanks again. :)
> 

No problem Howard.  I find that working on something like this is the best 
way for me to learn because it makes what I learned stick somewhat better 
than if I just read a book about how to do it.  I often do, however, need 
lots of input from the pros like you, Suz and Vern!

Regards,