Eyedropper Thru Layers?

I could swear that the eyedropper worked through multiple layers. Can 
anyone confirm?

I have been using Painter forever and I don't ever seem to remember 
having this problem.

I'm painting using multiple layers, and I want to eyedropper a color 
from somewhere in the canvas and the only thing the eyedropper will give 
me is any colors on the topmost layer, or pure white. Am I doing 
something wrong? Do I have something switched or the layers set to some 
weird effect that is disabling the eyedropper? It's impossible to work 
this way.

Thanks!

Hi guys,

I'm not having that problem in either Painter IX.5 or Painter X. Maybe 
it's just my lucky day, but I don't remember experiencing it in the 
past, either.


Jinny Brown
New Content at PixelAlley
http://www.pixelalley.com
_____________________



Big_O wrote:
> 
> This behaviour seems to be caused by having accidently painted with a 
> watercolor brush (or equivalent method-brush) on a transparent layer. I 
> have more then once discovered  that doing so causes painter to handle 
> the layer as fully opak, preventing the eyedropper-tool from getting 
> through.
> 
> Whenever this happens, i restart painter, sometimes the error is gone. 
> It might also help to change the layers properties to gel or multiply 
> and switching back to normal. On some weird occations, checking and 
> unchecking the boxes for "Preserve transparency"/"Pick up
underlying 
> color" and/or using a different tool has helped.
> 
> The "bug" is still present in Painter X and can easily be
reproduced:
> 
> -Create new document
> -Fill entire Canvas with, let's say, green
> -Create new Layer
> -Paint with a watercolor brush on the new transparent layer, leaving the 
> layer method on default
> -As you can see, the Brush produces strange white strokes, because it is 
> not able to interact with underlying pixels because layer is empty.
> -Now, while still on the layer above the canvas, try to use the 
> eyedroppertool on a spot, whre the green of the canvas is visible
> -Eyedropper is no longer capable of breaching through the layer.
> 
> splatter schrieb:
> 
>>
>> I could swear that the eyedropper worked through multiple layers. Can 
>> anyone confirm?
>>
>> I have been using Painter forever and I don't ever seem to remember 
>> having this problem.
>>
>> I'm painting using multiple layers, and I want to eyedropper a color 
>> from somewhere in the canvas and the only thing the eyedropper will 
>> give me is any colors on the topmost layer, or pure white. Am I doing 
>> something wrong? Do I have something switched or the layers set to 
>> some weird effect that is disabling the eyedropper? It's impossible to

>> work this way.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
> 

This behaviour seems to be caused by having accidently painted with a 
watercolor brush (or equivalent method-brush) on a transparent layer. I 
have more then once discovered  that doing so causes painter to handle 
the layer as fully opak, preventing the eyedropper-tool from getting 
through.

Whenever this happens, i restart painter, sometimes the error is gone. 
It might also help to change the layers properties to gel or multiply 
and switching back to normal. On some weird occations, checking and 
unchecking the boxes for "Preserve transparency"/"Pick up
underlying 
color" and/or using a different tool has helped.

The "bug" is still present in Painter X and can easily be reproduced:

-Create new document
-Fill entire Canvas with, let's say, green
-Create new Layer
-Paint with a watercolor brush on the new transparent layer, leaving the 
layer method on default
-As you can see, the Brush produces strange white strokes, because it is 
not able to interact with underlying pixels because layer is empty.
-Now, while still on the layer above the canvas, try to use the 
eyedroppertool on a spot, whre the green of the canvas is visible
-Eyedropper is no longer capable of breaching through the layer.

splatter schrieb:
> 
> I could swear that the eyedropper worked through multiple layers. Can 
> anyone confirm?
> 
> I have been using Painter forever and I don't ever seem to remember 
> having this problem.
> 
> I'm painting using multiple layers, and I want to eyedropper a color 
> from somewhere in the canvas and the only thing the eyedropper will give 
> me is any colors on the topmost layer, or pure white. Am I doing 
> something wrong? Do I have something switched or the layers set to some 
> weird effect that is disabling the eyedropper? It's impossible to work 
> this way.
> 
> Thanks!
> 

Thanks Big_O,

Your comments give me some perspective and I will have to try some of 
the things you suggest.

You never know what can cause these little glitches.



Big_O wrote:
> 
> This behaviour seems to be caused by having accidently painted with a 
> watercolor brush (or equivalent method-brush) on a transparent layer. I 
> have more then once discovered  that doing so causes painter to handle 
> the layer as fully opak, preventing the eyedropper-tool from getting 
> through.
> 
> Whenever this happens, i restart painter, sometimes the error is gone. 
> It might also help to change the layers properties to gel or multiply 
> and switching back to normal. On some weird occations, checking and 
> unchecking the boxes for "Preserve transparency"/"Pick up
underlying 
> color" and/or using a different tool has helped.
> 
> The "bug" is still present in Painter X and can easily be
reproduced:
> 
> -Create new document
> -Fill entire Canvas with, let's say, green
> -Create new Layer
> -Paint with a watercolor brush on the new transparent layer, leaving the 
> layer method on default
> -As you can see, the Brush produces strange white strokes, because it is 
> not able to interact with underlying pixels because layer is empty.
> -Now, while still on the layer above the canvas, try to use the 
> eyedroppertool on a spot, whre the green of the canvas is visible
> -Eyedropper is no longer capable of breaching through the layer.
> 
> splatter schrieb:
>>
>> I could swear that the eyedropper worked through multiple layers. Can 
>> anyone confirm?
>>
>> I have been using Painter forever and I don't ever seem to remember 
>> having this problem.
>>
>> I'm painting using multiple layers, and I want to eyedropper a color 
>> from somewhere in the canvas and the only thing the eyedropper will 
>> give me is any colors on the topmost layer, or pure white. Am I doing 
>> something wrong? Do I have something switched or the layers set to 
>> some weird effect that is disabling the eyedropper? It's impossible to

>> work this way.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
> 

Thanks Jinny...

....but you never have ANY problems. :-)






Jinny Brown wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm not having that problem in either Painter IX.5 or Painter X. Maybe 
> it's just my lucky day, but I don't remember experiencing it in the 
> past, either.
> 
> 
> Jinny Brown
> New Content at PixelAlley
> http://www.pixelalley.com
> _____________________
> 
> 
> 
> Big_O wrote:
>>
>> This behaviour seems to be caused by having accidently painted with a 
>> watercolor brush (or equivalent method-brush) on a transparent layer. 
>> I have more then once discovered  that doing so causes painter to 
>> handle the layer as fully opak, preventing the eyedropper-tool from 
>> getting through.
>>
>> Whenever this happens, i restart painter, sometimes the error is gone.

>> It might also help to change the layers properties to gel or multiply 
>> and switching back to normal. On some weird occations, checking and 
>> unchecking the boxes for "Preserve transparency"/"Pick
up underlying 
>> color" and/or using a different tool has helped.
>>
>> The "bug" is still present in Painter X and can easily be
reproduced:
>>
>> -Create new document
>> -Fill entire Canvas with, let's say, green
>> -Create new Layer
>> -Paint with a watercolor brush on the new transparent layer, leaving 
>> the layer method on default
>> -As you can see, the Brush produces strange white strokes, because it 
>> is not able to interact with underlying pixels because layer is empty.
>> -Now, while still on the layer above the canvas, try to use the 
>> eyedroppertool on a spot, whre the green of the canvas is visible
>> -Eyedropper is no longer capable of breaching through the layer.
>>
>> splatter schrieb:
>>
>>>
>>> I could swear that the eyedropper worked through multiple layers.
Can 
>>> anyone confirm?
>>>
>>> I have been using Painter forever and I don't ever seem to remember

>>> having this problem.
>>>
>>> I'm painting using multiple layers, and I want to eyedropper a
color 
>>> from somewhere in the canvas and the only thing the eyedropper will

>>> give me is any colors on the topmost layer, or pure white. Am I
doing 
>>> something wrong? Do I have something switched or the layers set to

>>> some weird effect that is disabling the eyedropper? It's impossible

>>> to work this way.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>