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New type of endnote problem

New type of endnote problem
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:34:59 -060
Here's one I have never run into before regarding endnote references to 
a bibliography. The entries in the bibliography are numbered and the 
notes in the text take the form [3,45], that is, entry number 3, page 
45. There can be multiple entries in the main text to this entry number. 
The problem comes when the author wants to add another entry to the 
bibliography and new text with references to this new entry. Say the new 
entry is number 5 on a list of nine, where the bibliography is in 
alphabetical order by author. This pushes old the old entries after the 
new one down by one number and affects all the in-text notes 
accordingly. Is there anyway to automate the renumbering here in the in 
line text references so that one doesn't have to go through the text and 
change them by hand?
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Re: New type of endnote problem
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:19:54 -050
David Pellquer wrote:
> 
> Here's one I have never run into before regarding endnote references to 
> a bibliography. The entries in the bibliography are numbered and the 
> notes in the text take the form [3,45], that is, entry number 3, page 
> 45. There can be multiple entries in the main text to this entry number. 
> The problem comes when the author wants to add another entry to the 
> bibliography and new text with references to this new entry. Say the new 
> entry is number 5 on a list of nine, where the bibliography is in 
> alphabetical order by author. This pushes old the old entries after the 
> new one down by one number and affects all the in-text notes 
> accordingly. Is there anyway to automate the renumbering here in the in 
> line text references so that one doesn't have to go through the text and 
> change them by hand?

If I understand you correctly, you want to use /cross references/ 
(nothing to do with Ventura endnotes or endnote references) to refer the 
reader to specific bibliography entries that are numbered. There is no 
note text at page bottom or chapter end, just a reference in the text: 
"[3,45]", indicating entry number and the page on which it appears.

I would autonumber the bibliography paragraphs, insert markers in each, 
then create the references using cross references to the section number 
and page number of the bibliography entry marker desired. I automated 
this process for footnotes and endnotes in my "Marker/Xref Note
Method", 
when I'd finally had enough of Ventura's buggy footnotes, and wanted the 
ability to cross-reference footnotes/endnotes as is often done in 
academic works.

What you do is create a marker in the bibliography entry, may as well be 
the first item in the paragraph. Could select and copy the text that 
should form the marker name, if the formatting allows it, then use left 
arrow to move off the text, then ctrl-shift-k (Insert, Marker) to insert 
the marker. Paste the name and <enter>, and you have the marker (this 
could be scripted, and the script assigned to a shortcut).

Then move to the reference location and press ctrl-shift-c (Insert, 
Number/Cross-Reference) to insert a cross reference, choosing the marker 
name from the "For" list. I'm not sure you can get the format you want

with a single reference. There's a Page and Section number option, but I 
think you'll have to use two separate xrefs to achieve your goal unless 
the cross-reference markup can be rearranged by a script (I doubt it). 
If there's a lot of these sorts of references and it would be 
worthwhile, insertion of the section and p.n. as two separate cross 
references could be scripted. E.g., plant the cursor in the biblio entry 
to which you want to refer, run a script to grab the markername you've 
already created, then plant the cursor where you want the xref and run 
another script to generate it.

-- 
Abe Hendin
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