Re: footnote problems

bbsydney wrote:
> At the outset, I should confess that I am brand new to Ventura, and am 
> currently evaluating V10. Imported footnotes from MS Word 2000, however,
are 
> giving me problems. More specifically:

Most find saving the MSW file as RTF and importing the RTF a more stable 
way of importing.

You should also check out John Faunce's text import utility.

> 
> I have prepared a short test document in Word (saved as a .doc file), which

> contains text, footnotes, and a table. The text and the table import well,

> and while the superscripted numbers for the footnotes are there within the

> imported text, the accompanying footnote numbers and text entries at the 
> bottom of the page are not.
> 

I am assuming that you just imported the file and turned on footnotes in 
the chapter. That should give you the footnotes and numbers without any 
problems.

> 
> By inserting a V10 footnote, the footnote numbers and text entries appear
as 
> expected, but then the superscripted numbers within the text double up (to

> 11, 22, 33, 44, etc.), while the footnote numbers, at the bottom of the
page 
> double up, and overlap.
>

I have never seen this particular problem, but others may have. I know 
that sometimes the import does not work quite as expected given some of 
MSW's peculiarities.

> I have tried deleting one of the doubled superscripted numbers (to 1, 2, 3,

> 4, etc.). This deletes the accompanying footnote text, and retains the 
> overlapped footnote number. There is probably a simple remedy to this, but
I 
> cannot see it. Any suggestions?

Let us know if these suggestions help. (If not, try emailing me the 
short doc/rtf file and I will have a look.) But as it is MSW, there 
could be hidden problems.

Many also have macros (info available on Eric's FAQ, I think) to place 
VP mark-up into the text and save as txt files then import into VP.

There are many ways to skin cats, that is once you can herd them together.

Regards,
Stilman Davis

At the outset, I should confess that I am brand new to Ventura, and am 
currently evaluating V10. Imported footnotes from MS Word 2000, however, are 
giving me problems. More specifically:



I have prepared a short test document in Word (saved as a .doc file), which 
contains text, footnotes, and a table. The text and the table import well, 
and while the superscripted numbers for the footnotes are there within the 
imported text, the accompanying footnote numbers and text entries at the 
bottom of the page are not.



By inserting a V10 footnote, the footnote numbers and text entries appear as 
expected, but then the superscripted numbers within the text double up (to 
11, 22, 33, 44, etc.), while the footnote numbers, at the bottom of the page 
double up, and overlap.



I have tried deleting one of the doubled superscripted numbers (to 1, 2, 3, 
4, etc.). This deletes the accompanying footnote text, and retains the 
overlapped footnote number. There is probably a simple remedy to this, but I 
cannot see it. Any suggestions?

InDesign is better than VP at it, but not by a whole bunch.  If you check 
the InDesign user forum, you'll likely see the same advice given there for 
importing Word into InDesign that you'll see here for VP.

My experience with Word is that there are usually too many hidden formatting 
issues that don't show up until the file has been placed in a desktop 
publishing program.  I use both VP and InDesign, and if I have a Word 
document I need to place in either program, I always run a simple macro to 
convert the Word document into simple, pretagged text native to the layout 
software I plan to use and then go from there.  RTF also works well with 
either VP or InDesign; I just find it quicker to run a macro and convert 
everything to a straight text file.


"bbsydney" <bbarch@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:47cf39c0_1@cnews...
>
> Stilman Davis wrote:
>
>> I am assuming that you just imported the file and turned on footnotes
in
>
>> the chapter. That should give you the footnotes and numbers without
any
>
>> problems.
>
> Yes I did, but as the attached illustrations show, the problem persists in

> the direct Word .doc import. In the right image the paragraph indent has 
> been increased to clarify. An RTF import seems OK though.
>
> How does Ventura compare to InDesign CS3 in this regard? Is native Word 
> importation better or worse in CS3?
>
>
> 

Stilman Davis wrote:
> I am assuming that you just imported the file and turned on footnotes in
> the chapter. That should give you the footnotes and numbers without any
> problems.
Yes I did, but as the attached illustrations show, the problem persists in 
the direct Word .doc import. In the right image the paragraph indent has 
been increased to clarify. An RTF import seems OK though.
How does Ventura compare to InDesign CS3 in this regard? Is native Word 
importation better or worse in CS3?

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:25:14 +1100, "bbsydney"
<bbarch@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

Hello,

> How does Ventura compare to InDesign CS3 in this regard? Is native Word 
> importation better or worse in CS3?

More or less the same. Word .DOC is so mediocre that no other program
can really cope with it. Cleaning it up and using a more netural
format like RTF is much better.

Actually, I prefer another approach myself, I copy-and-paste all .DOC
stuff into Word Perfect and clean it up there with macros, then import
the WPD file into Ventura. Yes, it is an extra step but it's worth it.
Word Perfect is the only heayv-duty word processor that allows you to
see the actual codes below the WYSIWYG surface. Invaluable.

Bye,
  Gabor

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