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Space requirement question when backing up D-D-T

Space requirement question when backing up D-D-T
Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:31:01 -070
We have the Dpm1-Dpm2 solution in place right now and we are looking at using 
Firestreamer to back up DPM2.  The questions are...

1. when the "tape" back up runs against DPM2...does it back up entire

database or a snap shot of the current PG?  (current = if I was to restore 
the PG at the time of tape back up)

2. how to tell how much space will be required for the "tape" back
up?

reasons for this is DPM1 is set to hold 2 weeks of PS backups and DPM2 is 
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Re: Space requirement question when backing up D-D-T
Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:22:01 -070
Thank you for your reply.

So I am a little confused on this one...it doesnt back up the PG?  Please 
define what the datasource level is and that should answer it all.

Also, you say to look in the Recovery Console and see the size there...so 
just add up all the things that are portected in the PG on a given day and 
that should equal the amont of space needed?

"Madhan S[MSFT]" wrote:

> HI Ebrola
> 1. When the tape backup runs against DPM2, it does not backup entire DPM2
or 
> protection group. It can only backup at datasource level. You can choose 
> which datasource to be protected to Tape while configuring tape intents
> 2. It depends on the size of the recovery point for the datasource. This 
> information will be available on the RecoveryUI
> 
> -- 
> Thanks
> Madhan S
> 
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights
> "ebrola" <ebrola@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message 
> news:C42DECA7-958A-4F73-8816-FC3C3C937EC4@microsoft.com...
> > We have the Dpm1-Dpm2 solution in place right now and we are looking
at 
> > using
> > Firestreamer to back up DPM2.  The questions are...
> >
> > 1. when the "tape" back up runs against DPM2...does it back
up entire
> > database or a snap shot of the current PG?  (current = if I was to
restore
> > the PG at the time of tape back up)
> >
> > 2. how to tell how much space will be required for the
"tape" back up?
> >
> > reasons for this is DPM1 is set to hold 2 weeks of PS backups and DPM2
is
> > set to keep 6 months of of DPM1/PS. 
> 
> 
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Re: Space requirement question when backing up D-D-T
Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:01:03 -070
Thank you again for the quick reply and that makes sense.  But that brings up 
2 more questions dealing with this..

1. the tape back up will only back up say the Exchange database as it is at 
that moment in time and not the 6 months of on disk retention I 
have...correct?

2. since I have been DPM1-DPM2 for now...can I just modify the PG on DPM2 to 
send to "tape" or do I need start a new PG on DPM2?

"Madhan S[MSFT]" wrote:

> By datasource, I mean volumes, SQL databases, Storage groups etc. You can 
> pick and choose datasources that needs to be secondary protected.
> 
> Regarding the space needed...Yes, you are right. Actually, DPM itself can 
> estimate the space needed when you configure disk based protection.
> 
> -- 
> Thanks
> Madhan S
> 
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights
> "ebrola" <ebrola@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message 
> news:00D3DD05-4DF9-44C2-A9DB-98A2916161A7@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you for your reply.
> >
> > So I am a little confused on this one...it doesnt back up the PG? 
Please
> > define what the datasource level is and that should answer it all.
> >
> > Also, you say to look in the Recovery Console and see the size
there...so
> > just add up all the things that are portected in the PG on a given day
and
> > that should equal the amont of space needed?
> >
> > "Madhan S[MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> HI Ebrola
> >> 1. When the tape backup runs against DPM2, it does not backup
entire DPM2 
> >> or
> >> protection group. It can only backup at datasource level. You can
choose
> >> which datasource to be protected to Tape while configuring tape
intents
> >> 2. It depends on the size of the recovery point for the
datasource. This
> >> information will be available on the RecoveryUI
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Thanks
> >> Madhan S
> >>
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no 
> >> rights
> >> "ebrola" <ebrola@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message
> >> news:C42DECA7-958A-4F73-8816-FC3C3C937EC4@microsoft.com...
> >> > We have the Dpm1-Dpm2 solution in place right now and we are
looking at
> >> > using
> >> > Firestreamer to back up DPM2.  The questions are...
> >> >
> >> > 1. when the "tape" back up runs against DPM2...does
it back up entire
> >> > database or a snap shot of the current PG?  (current = if I
was to 
> >> > restore
> >> > the PG at the time of tape back up)
> >> >
> >> > 2. how to tell how much space will be required for the
"tape" back up?
> >> >
> >> > reasons for this is DPM1 is set to hold 2 weeks of PS backups
and DPM2 
> >> > is
> >> > set to keep 6 months of of DPM1/PS.
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> 
> 
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Re: Space requirement question when backing up D-D-T
Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:10:15 +053
HI Ebrola
1. When the tape backup runs against DPM2, it does not backup entire DPM2 or 
protection group. It can only backup at datasource level. You can choose 
which datasource to be protected to Tape while configuring tape intents
2. It depends on the size of the recovery point for the datasource. This 
information will be available on the RecoveryUI

-- 
Thanks
Madhan S

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights
"ebrola" <ebrola@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:C42DECA7-958A-4F73-8816-FC3C3C937EC4@microsoft.com...
> We have the Dpm1-Dpm2 solution in place right now and we are looking at 
> using
> Firestreamer to back up DPM2.  The questions are...
>
> 1. when the "tape" back up runs against DPM2...does it back up
entire
> database or a snap shot of the current PG?  (current = if I was to restore
> the PG at the time of tape back up)
>
> 2. how to tell how much space will be required for the "tape"
back up?
>
> reasons for this is DPM1 is set to hold 2 weeks of PS backups and DPM2 is
> set to keep 6 months of of DPM1/PS. 

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Re: Space requirement question when backing up D-D-T
Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:12:46 +053
By datasource, I mean volumes, SQL databases, Storage groups etc. You can 
pick and choose datasources that needs to be secondary protected.

Regarding the space needed...Yes, you are right. Actually, DPM itself can 
estimate the space needed when you configure disk based protection.

-- 
Thanks
Madhan S

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights
"ebrola" <ebrola@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:00D3DD05-4DF9-44C2-A9DB-98A2916161A7@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> So I am a little confused on this one...it doesnt back up the PG?  Please
> define what the datasource level is and that should answer it all.
>
> Also, you say to look in the Recovery Console and see the size there...so
> just add up all the things that are portected in the PG on a given day and
> that should equal the amont of space needed?
>
> "Madhan S[MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> HI Ebrola
>> 1. When the tape backup runs against DPM2, it does not backup entire
DPM2 
>> or
>> protection group. It can only backup at datasource level. You can
choose
>> which datasource to be protected to Tape while configuring tape
intents
>> 2. It depends on the size of the recovery point for the datasource.
This
>> information will be available on the RecoveryUI
>>
>> -- 
>> Thanks
>> Madhan S
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no 
>> rights
>> "ebrola" <ebrola@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>> news:C42DECA7-958A-4F73-8816-FC3C3C937EC4@microsoft.com...
>> > We have the Dpm1-Dpm2 solution in place right now and we are
looking at
>> > using
>> > Firestreamer to back up DPM2.  The questions are...
>> >
>> > 1. when the "tape" back up runs against DPM2...does it
back up entire
>> > database or a snap shot of the current PG?  (current = if I was to

>> > restore
>> > the PG at the time of tape back up)
>> >
>> > 2. how to tell how much space will be required for the
"tape" back up?
>> >
>> > reasons for this is DPM1 is set to hold 2 weeks of PS backups and
DPM2 
>> > is
>> > set to keep 6 months of of DPM1/PS.
>>
>>
>> 

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