Re: download old messages queries

V S Rawat keyboarded, On 4/12/2008 3:36 AM :
> ff3b3.
>
> I needed to see some old message of this ng today so I downloaded old 
> messages by File - download next 50 messages several times.
>
> 1. Why is it "Next"? Shouldn't it be "previous" 50
messages?

Next in this useage is next batch.

> 2. Is there any way I could temporarily change that 50 to 100, 200 or 
> more so that lot of messages get downloaded in one go? If it uses the 
> setting of download size for new messages, that is OK at 50. Only for 
> old messages I want that to be 200 or a larger size so that I don't 
> need to do that many times.

Yes, go to the Account Settings dialog for the server account and on the 
Server Settings tab make the change.

> 3. When it downloads old messages, it lists them in the bottom of the 
> top right header pane. I need to manually rearrange them in my 
> old-messages-at-top. Why can't it list them at proper sorted place as 
> per my current order?

Have you tried toggling the the column header that you sort on to 
reverse and back again. This helps resort the listing to move the recent 
d/l into sort order. Only needs two clicks.

> 4. when id downloads message (whether old or newest), it showed the 
> threads compressed and I need to expand them manually. When I am 
> working in expand all threads mode, why can't it keep them expanded?
>
> 5. I noticed that downloaded old messages were in green for single 
> message thread and brown for multiple message thread (compressed) and 
> even after I "marked the newsgroup read", the color remained
green for 
> the first message of each thread, that disturbs my understanding as I 
> have put my own messages to red (to notice them quickly, thru a 
> filter), and now these remained green. Seems a bug.
>
> 6. Once I expanded threads by hitting *, hitting / is not compressing 
> the threads at all. View - Threads - compressed thread is working but 
> / is not working either on main keyboard or in right numeric keypad. A 
> bug?
>
> 7. It downloads old messages and if, for any reason, I go to some 
> other folder, and come back to ff folder, it duly compresses the 
> folder as per my setting of keep only last 7 days messages, so all 
> those downloaded messages are gone. When I have manually downloaded 
> them, should it keep them for some time or till I manually delete 
> them? I mean there should be a way not to let it do it automatically 
> and I need to download all of them again in the lots of 50.

In the folder pane, select the group and right click to get a context 
menu. Select Propereties and in that dialog select the tetention tab.  
Now you can choose a new retention for the group that alters the server 
default setting you made in the Account Settings dialog.  If you don't 
then WYSIWYG and the current 7 day rule will be applied.

>
> thanks.


-- 
Ron K.
Who is General Failure, and why is he searching my HDD?

ff3b3.

I needed to see some old message of this ng today so I downloaded old 
messages by File - download next 50 messages several times.

1. Why is it "Next"? Shouldn't it be "previous" 50
messages?

2. Is there any way I could temporarily change that 50 to 100, 200 or 
more so that lot of messages get downloaded in one go? If it uses the 
setting of download size for new messages, that is OK at 50. Only for 
old messages I want that to be 200 or a larger size so that I don't need 
to do that many times.

3. When it downloads old messages, it lists them in the bottom of the 
top right header pane. I need to manually rearrange them in my 
old-messages-at-top. Why can't it list them at proper sorted place as 
per my current order?

4. when id downloads message (whether old or newest), it showed the 
threads compressed and I need to expand them manually. When I am working 
in expand all threads mode, why can't it keep them expanded?

5. I noticed that downloaded old messages were in green for single 
message thread and brown for multiple message thread (compressed) and 
even after I "marked the newsgroup read", the color remained green for

the first message of each thread, that disturbs my understanding as I 
have put my own messages to red (to notice them quickly, thru a filter), 
and now these remained green. Seems a bug.

6. Once I expanded threads by hitting *, hitting / is not compressing 
the threads at all. View - Threads - compressed thread is working but / 
is not working either on main keyboard or in right numeric keypad. A bug?

7. It downloads old messages and if, for any reason, I go to some other 
folder, and come back to ff folder, it duly compresses the folder as per 
my setting of keep only last 7 days messages, so all those downloaded 
messages are gone. When I have manually downloaded them, should it keep 
them for some time or till I manually delete them? I mean there should 
be a way not to let it do it automatically and I need to download all of 
them again in the lots of 50.

thanks.
-- 

On 12.04.2008 17:43, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Ron K. to 
generate the following:? :
> V S Rawat keyboarded, On 4/12/2008 3:36 AM :
>   
>> ff3b3.
>>
>> I needed to see some old message of this ng today so I downloaded old 
>> messages by File - download next 50 messages several times.
>>
>> 1. Why is it "Next"? Shouldn't it be "previous" 50
messages?
>>     
>
> Next in this useage is next batch.
>
>   
>> 2. Is there any way I could temporarily change that 50 to 100, 200 or 
>> more so that lot of messages get downloaded in one go? If it uses the 
>> setting of download size for new messages, that is OK at 50. Only for 
>> old messages I want that to be 200 or a larger size so that I don't 
>> need to do that many times.
>>     
>
> Yes, go to the Account Settings dialog for the server account and on the 
> Server Settings tab make the change.
>
>   
>> 3. When it downloads old messages, it lists them in the bottom of the 
>> top right header pane. I need to manually rearrange them in my 
>> old-messages-at-top. Why can't it list them at proper sorted place as 
>> per my current order?
>>     
>
> Have you tried toggling the the column header that you sort on to 
> reverse and back again. This helps resort the listing to move the recent 
> d/l into sort order. Only needs two clicks.
>
>   
>> 4. when id downloads message (whether old or newest), it showed the 
>> threads compressed and I need to expand them manually. When I am 
>> working in expand all threads mode, why can't it keep them expanded?
>>
>> 5. I noticed that downloaded old messages were in green for single 
>> message thread and brown for multiple message thread (compressed) and 
>> even after I "marked the newsgroup read", the color remained
green for 
>> the first message of each thread, that disturbs my understanding as I 
>> have put my own messages to red (to notice them quickly, thru a 
>> filter), and now these remained green. Seems a bug.
>>
>> 6. Once I expanded threads by hitting *, hitting / is not compressing 
>> the threads at all. View - Threads - compressed thread is working but 
>> / is not working either on main keyboard or in right numeric keypad. A

>> bug?
>>
>> 7. It downloads old messages and if, for any reason, I go to some 
>> other folder, and come back to ff folder, it duly compresses the 
>> folder as per my setting of keep only last 7 days messages, so all 
>> those downloaded messages are gone. When I have manually downloaded 
>> them, should it keep them for some time or till I manually delete 
>> them? I mean there should be a way not to let it do it automatically 
>> and I need to download all of them again in the lots of 50.
>>     
>
> In the folder pane, select the group and right click to get a context 
> menu. Select Propereties and in that dialog select the tetention tab.  
> Now you can choose a new retention for the group that alters the server 
> default setting you made in the Account Settings dialog.  If you don't 
> then WYSIWYG and the current 7 day rule will be applied.
>
>   
>> thanks.
>>     
>
>
>   
ummm - Ron.... *TWO* clicks??? you /do/ make things complicated...
(end snide)