maximum size of grammar (was Out of memory error)

Hi ,

I think my problem is that I have too many top level active rules in my sapi
5.1 grammar (245).  Does anyone know if there is a maximum upper limit?  If I
try to restructure the grammar to nest it into fewer top level rules, is there
a limit to how many <list> items , or optional phrases etc that the
grammar
can accept?

Thanks,
Miguel

Miguel,
I was curious so I tried what you described. This is indeed a limitation 
with the old SR engines in the Speech SDK 5.1. It can't support too many 
active top level rules (256 on my Windows 2003 machine). A solution, if you 
want to use the SDK 5.1 engine, is as you said: Wrap the rules inside a 
<LIST>. There isn't any limit on the number of items in the <LIST>
that I 
see. I tried 520 <P> items in a <LIST>, and it worked fine.

The new engines on Vista don't have this problem.

However, in all cases, SAPI currently does not support very long path of 
transitions  (250+ transitions or so). I tried a grammar that can recognize 
a very long utterance (e.g. say "one, two, three, .... nine hundred and 
ninety nine, one thousand") and it returned an error.

"Miguel" <aravenwood@fuse.net> wrote in message 
news:e9c2e$474a362a$d0662771$32021@FUSE.NET...
> Hi ,
>
> I think my problem is that I have too many top level active rules in my 
> sapi
> 5.1 grammar (245).  Does anyone know if there is a maximum upper limit? 
> If I
> try to restructure the grammar to nest it into fewer top level rules, is 
> there
> a limit to how many <list> items , or optional phrases etc that the 
> grammar
> can accept?
>
> Thanks,
> Miguel
> 

Miguel,
I was curious so I tried what you described. This is indeed a limitation 
with the old SR engines in the Speech SDK 5.1. It can't support too many 
active top level rules (256 on my Windows 2003 machine). A solution, if you 
want to use the SDK 5.1 engine, is as you said: Wrap the rules inside a 
<LIST>. There isn't any limit on the number of items in the <LIST>
that I 
see. I tried 520 <P> items in a <LIST>, and it worked fine.

The new engines on Vista don't have this problem.

However, in all cases, SAPI currently does not support very long path of 
transitions  (250+ transitions or so). I tried a grammar that can recognize 
a very long utterance (e.g. say "one, two, three, .... nine hundred and 
ninety nine, one thousand") and it returned an error.

"Miguel" <aravenwood@fuse.net> wrote in message 
news:e9c2e$474a362a$d0662771$32021@FUSE.NET...
> Hi ,
>
> I think my problem is that I have too many top level active rules in my 
> sapi
> 5.1 grammar (245).  Does anyone know if there is a maximum upper limit? 
> If I
> try to restructure the grammar to nest it into fewer top level rules, is 
> there
> a limit to how many <list> items , or optional phrases etc that the 
> grammar
> can accept?
>
> Thanks,
> Miguel
> 

Thanks Hieu!  It's good to know I'm not the only one who can reproduce the
error!

Miguel

"Hieu Nguyen" <hieunt@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Miguel,