Re: ATTN: Mike C. Re: Mozilla Suite to SeaMonkey OT

jetjock wrote:
> Mike C wrote:
> 
>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Mike C wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petr Voralek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>    Hell-o!
>>>>>
>>>>>   On 04/02/2008 03:20 AM, *Ed Mullen* wrote, and I quote
(in part):
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the life of me I can't figure out why
some/most of you are 
>>>>>>>> against MozBackup
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Saying "install this extension" mindlessly
does not generate 
>>>>>> knowledge, it just generates more questions here that
should not 
>>>>>> come up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, that's just my opinion. As Dennis
Miller said:  
>>>>>> "I could be wrong."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Burt, frankly, I'm not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Yes, you are (because MozBackup as AFAIK a stand-alone
program 
>>>>> (windows only, IIRC) and not a mozilla extension)... ;^)
>>>>>
>>>>>   (I personally backup my data with (win)rar or tar|gzip)
>>>>>
>>>> Petr took the words out of my mouth:
>>>> MozBackup is not an "Extension".
>>>> Instead it's a "Program".
>>>>
>>>> And I still stand by what I said:
>>>> "It really is a LOT easier (especially for newbies) than
the Windows 
>>>> Explorer, Profiles, application data, local settings, etc, etc
method."
>>>>
>>>> Try it, you might like it :-)
>>>> Mike C
>>>
>>>
>>> Ik now Ed.  He backs up his machine regularly, as we all should. 
>>> MozBackup is unneeded if the data is already backed up.
>>>
>>> It may be easier for newbies, but its giving them a false sense of

>>> security. Sure its backing up the Mozilla profiles, but how much is

>>> there that they are not backing up?
>>>
>>> Lee
>>
>>
>> I use MozBackup mostly to transfer profiles from computer to computer.
>>
>> As a side note.... I use Symantic Ghost 12.0 to automatically backup 
>> EVERYTHING at 2:00am every day to an external HD. (And it works well.)
>>
>> Mike C
> 
> Have you ever tried to restore from that external drive?  I ask because 
> I used to use Ghost 10 until I found out it would back up to an external 
> drive, but the restore function would not find it when I tried to use 
> it.  Just a heads-up so you don't get hammered unexpectedly someday.
> 
> Follow up set to mozilla.general
> 
> 
Hey Jetcock...Thanks for the heads up.

I haven't done a FULL restore (including programs) all at once but I 
have restored many files and folders individually from the external HD.

Before I really trusted it I experimented a lot with restoring.

Mike C wrote:

> jetjock wrote:
>
>> Mike C wrote:
>>
>>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike C wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Petr Voralek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>    Hell-o!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On 04/02/2008 03:20 AM, *Ed Mullen* wrote, and I
quote (in part):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the life of me I can't figure out why
some/most of you are 
>>>>>>>>> against MozBackup
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saying "install this extension"
mindlessly does not generate 
>>>>>>> knowledge, it just generates more questions here
that should not 
>>>>>>> come up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the other hand, that's just my opinion. As
Dennis Miller 
>>>>>>> said:  "I could be wrong."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Burt, frankly, I'm not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Yes, you are (because MozBackup as AFAIK a
stand-alone program 
>>>>>> (windows only, IIRC) and not a mozilla extension)...
;^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   (I personally backup my data with (win)rar or
tar|gzip)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Petr took the words out of my mouth:
>>>>> MozBackup is not an "Extension".
>>>>> Instead it's a "Program".
>>>>>
>>>>> And I still stand by what I said:
>>>>> "It really is a LOT easier (especially for newbies)
than the 
>>>>> Windows Explorer, Profiles, application data, local
settings, etc, 
>>>>> etc method."
>>>>>
>>>>> Try it, you might like it :-)
>>>>> Mike C
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ik now Ed.  He backs up his machine regularly, as we all
should. 
>>>> MozBackup is unneeded if the data is already backed up.
>>>>
>>>> It may be easier for newbies, but its giving them a false sense
of 
>>>> security. Sure its backing up the Mozilla profiles, but how
much is 
>>>> there that they are not backing up?
>>>>
>>>> Lee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I use MozBackup mostly to transfer profiles from computer to
computer.
>>>
>>> As a side note.... I use Symantic Ghost 12.0 to automatically
backup 
>>> EVERYTHING at 2:00am every day to an external HD. (And it works
well.)
>>>
>>> Mike C
>>
>>
>> Have you ever tried to restore from that external drive?  I ask 
>> because I used to use Ghost 10 until I found out it would back up to 
>> an external drive, but the restore function would not find it when I 
>> tried to use it.  Just a heads-up so you don't get hammered 
>> unexpectedly someday.
>>
>> Follow up set to mozilla.general
>>
>>
> Hey Jetcock...Thanks for the heads up.
>
> I haven't done a FULL restore (including programs) all at once but I 
> have restored many files and folders individually from the external HD.
>
> Before I really trusted it I experimented a lot with restoring.
> Ghost 12 WORKS PERFECTLY for me :-)

Glad to hear it.  Just didn't want you to get caught unaware!  ;-)

-- 

jetjock wrote:
> Mike C wrote:
> 
>> jetjock wrote:
>>
>>> Mike C wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mike C wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Petr Voralek wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Hell-o!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On 04/02/2008 03:20 AM, *Ed Mullen* wrote, and I
quote (in part):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For the life of me I can't figure out
why some/most of you are 
>>>>>>>>>> against MozBackup
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saying "install this extension"
mindlessly does not generate 
>>>>>>>> knowledge, it just generates more questions
here that should not 
>>>>>>>> come up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the other hand, that's just my opinion. As
Dennis Miller 
>>>>>>>> said:  "I could be wrong."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Burt, frankly, I'm not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Yes, you are (because MozBackup as AFAIK a
stand-alone program 
>>>>>>> (windows only, IIRC) and not a mozilla
extension)... ;^)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   (I personally backup my data with (win)rar or
tar|gzip)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Petr took the words out of my mouth:
>>>>>> MozBackup is not an "Extension".
>>>>>> Instead it's a "Program".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I still stand by what I said:
>>>>>> "It really is a LOT easier (especially for
newbies) than the 
>>>>>> Windows Explorer, Profiles, application data, local
settings, etc, 
>>>>>> etc method."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try it, you might like it :-)
>>>>>> Mike C
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ik now Ed.  He backs up his machine regularly, as we all
should. 
>>>>> MozBackup is unneeded if the data is already backed up.
>>>>>
>>>>> It may be easier for newbies, but its giving them a false
sense of 
>>>>> security. Sure its backing up the Mozilla profiles, but how
much is 
>>>>> there that they are not backing up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use MozBackup mostly to transfer profiles from computer to
computer.
>>>>
>>>> As a side note.... I use Symantic Ghost 12.0 to automatically
backup 
>>>> EVERYTHING at 2:00am every day to an external HD. (And it works
well.)
>>>>
>>>> Mike C
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you ever tried to restore from that external drive?  I ask 
>>> because I used to use Ghost 10 until I found out it would back up
to 
>>> an external drive, but the restore function would not find it when
I 
>>> tried to use it.  Just a heads-up so you don't get hammered 
>>> unexpectedly someday.
>>>
>>> Follow up set to mozilla.general
>>>
>>>
>> Hey Jetcock...Thanks for the heads up.
>>
>> I haven't done a FULL restore (including programs) all at once but I 
>> have restored many files and folders individually from the external
HD.
>>
>> Before I really trusted it I experimented a lot with restoring.
>> Ghost 12 WORKS PERFECTLY for me :-)
> 
> Glad to hear it.  Just didn't want you to get caught unaware!  ;-)
> 

Mike C wrote:
[...]
> How did you divert my reply to this news group??

By setting a Followup-To header in the post to which you were replying.

Best regards,
Tony.
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squaredancer wrote:
> On 02.04.2008 19:54, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Mike C to 
> generate the following:? :
>> jetjock wrote:
>>  
>>> Mike C wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>> Mike C wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>> Petr Voralek wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>    Hell-o!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On 04/02/2008 03:20 AM, *Ed Mullen* wrote, and I
quote (in part):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>> For the life of me I can't figure out
why some/most of you are 
>>>>>>>>>> against MozBackup
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ .
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> Saying "install this extension"
mindlessly does not generate 
>>>>>>>> knowledge, it just generates more questions
here that should not 
>>>>>>>> come up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the other hand, that's just my opinion. As
Dennis Miller 
>>>>>>>> said:  "I could be wrong."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Burt, frankly, I'm not.
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>   Yes, you are (because MozBackup as AFAIK a
stand-alone program 
>>>>>>> (windows only, IIRC) and not a mozilla
extension)... ;^)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   (I personally backup my data with (win)rar or
tar|gzip)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Petr took the words out of my mouth:
>>>>>> MozBackup is not an "Extension".
>>>>>> Instead it's a "Program".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I still stand by what I said:
>>>>>> "It really is a LOT easier (especially for
newbies) than the 
>>>>>> Windows Explorer, Profiles, application data, local
settings, etc, 
>>>>>> etc method."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try it, you might like it :-)
>>>>>> Mike C
>>>>>>           
>>>>> Ik now Ed.  He backs up his machine regularly, as we all
should. 
>>>>> MozBackup is unneeded if the data is already backed up.
>>>>>
>>>>> It may be easier for newbies, but its giving them a false
sense of 
>>>>> security. Sure its backing up the Mozilla profiles, but how
much is 
>>>>> there that they are not backing up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee
>>>>>         
>>>> I use MozBackup mostly to transfer profiles from computer to
computer.
>>>>
>>>> As a side note.... I use Symantic Ghost 12.0 to automatically
backup 
>>>> EVERYTHING at 2:00am every day to an external HD. (And it works
well.)
>>>>
>>>> Mike C
>>>>       
>>> Have you ever tried to restore from that external drive?  I ask 
>>> because I used to use Ghost 10 until I found out it would back up
to 
>>> an external drive, but the restore function would not find it when
I 
>>> tried to use it.  Just a heads-up so you don't get hammered 
>>> unexpectedly someday.
>>>
>>> Follow up set to mozilla.general
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>> Hey Jetcock...Thanks for the heads up.
>>
>> I haven't done a FULL restore (including programs) all at once but I 
>> have restored many files and folders individually from the external
HD.
>>
>> Before I really trusted it I experimented a lot with restoring.
>> Ghost 12 WORKS PERFECTLY for me :-)
>>   
> 
> 
> Mike - question about Ghost
> 
> I had Ghost installed some time ago (couple of years) from the Norton 
> package - did a backup - which took a VERY long time - and then 
> un-installed the complete package.  Ghost took 5 hours to uninstall, 
> during which time, the system was disabled for other tasks!
> 
> Do you know if the Symantec version is still such a lame creature??
> 
> reg

I haven't had any problems.  From what I understand the original Ghost 
*(in package)* was a bear to work with and lots of people had problems.

As far as uninstalling: I first had v10 and uninstalled it in order to 
install v12. It was easy and certainly didn't take 5 hours (Maybe 10 
minutes)..

I have no problems working with v12.  It's smooth and easy.

Mike C