CSS validation errors

I'm experiencing a problem with NOD-generated CSS failing to validate. I'm using
NOD 9.1 (9.10.0000.5035) which is, I believe, the last build of version 9.

In response to an earlier post (Which page layout? posted last Monday) Charles
suggested that this might be caused by a corruption in the .NOD file - but this
seems not to be the case, unless NOF is causing the corruption istelf. I ran 2
tests to check this:

Test1
=====
I created a new default site and saved it, making no changes, which I've
published at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bravo/_test1/index.html (dynamic layout,
comatibility set for MSIE4 and above). 

When this is validated it generates one SCC validation error "Value Error :
cursor hand is not a cursor value : hand", which is one of the 2 types of
error I was getting before.

Test2
=====
I added a table to the default set, changed the layout region to 'fixed page
layout' (but keeping the page as dynamic page layout), and published the result
at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bravo/_test1/index.html.

When this is validated it generates 30 extra CSS errors of the type "only 0
can be a length. You must put an unit after your number", the other error I
experienced before.

Is anyone else able to reprduce these errors - or is it just my installation, or
just build 9.10.0000.5035? Even better, is there a known solution?

Fusion 9.1 generates w3c vaild HTML. The CSS is partially implemented and 
therefore partially compliant.

Fusion 10 improves on this, but still isn't 100% on the CSS side of things.

Why, pray tell, is this a major concern for you? Pages render correctly in 
browsers and the CSS non-compliance is minor. Mostly deprecations, not 
full-blown errors.

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"Bravo" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message 
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>
> OK, it's clear it's not me. I've just tried to validate a number of sites 
> posted in netobjects.new-sites. Every one that I've tested fail CSS 
> validation with errors similar to my test sites. Has this not been noticed

> before?
>
> Unlesss anyone has a fix I can only conclude that NOF is unable to 
> generate compliant CSS code. Please tell me I'm wrong, and that there is a

> fix...
>
> What is also interesting is that a couple of these *don't* generate the 
> "cursor hand" errors. I wonder why?
>
> Sites tested:
> =============
>
> http://www.sunnybankchurch.org.uk/ - NOF 9 - fails CSS validation with 3 
> "Value Error : cursor hand is not a cursor value : hand" errors
>
> http://www.holytrinity-madeira.com/ - NOF9 - fails with several
"cursor 
> hand" errors, + others
>
> http://www.humeridgechurch.org/ - NOF10 - fails with 8 "You must put
an 
> unit after your number" errors
>
> http://aloha.bien-etre.com/ - NOF v? -  fails with 129 errors of types 
> "unit after your number" and  "cursor hand"
>
> http://www.mensgroups.org.nz/ - NOF v? - fails with 180 errors of types 
> "unit after your number" and  "cursor hand"
>
> http://www.centpourcent-reception.com/ - NOF v? - 26 CSS validation errors

> of the above types
>
> http://users.isp.com/gentle_bear/ - NOF10 - 28 CSS validation errors of 
> the above types
>
> http://www.colonialcandlecrafters.com/ - NOF v? - 8 validation errors of 
> type "cursor hand" & others
>
> http://www.clodaghrodgers.co.uk/ - NOF9 - 35 validation errors of type 
> "unit after your number" (and "cursor hand" on other
pages)
>
> http://www.pagesnip.com/ - NOF10 - fails with 16 errors of types "unit

> after your number" and  "cursor hand"
>
>
> "Bravo" <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>I'm experiencing a problem with NOD-generated CSS failing to validate.
I'm 
>>using NOD 9.1 (9.10.0000.5035) which is, I believe, the last build of 
>>version 9.
>>
>>In response to an earlier post (Which page layout? posted last Monday) 
>>Charles suggested that this might be caused by a corruption in the .NOD

>>file - but this seems not to be the case, unless NOF is causing the 
>>corruption istelf. I ran 2 tests to check this:
>>
>>Test1
>>=====
>>I created a new default site and saved it, making no changes, which I've

>>published at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bravo/_test1/index.html (dynamic

>>layout, comatibility set for MSIE4 and above).
>>
>>When this is validated it generates one SCC validation error "Value
Error 
>>: cursor hand is not a cursor value : hand", which is one of the 2
types 
>>of error I was getting before.
>>
>>Test2
>>=====
>>I added a table to the default set, changed the layout region to 'fixed

>>page layout' (but keeping the page as dynamic page layout), and
published 
>>the result at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bravo/_test1/index.html.
>>
>>When this is validated it generates 30 extra CSS errors of the type
"only 
>>0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number", the
other 
>>error I experienced before.
>>
>>Is anyone else able to reprduce these errors - or is it just my 
>>installation, or just build 9.10.0000.5035? Even better, is there a
known 
>>solution?
>>
> 

OK, it's clear it's not me. I've just tried to validate a number of sites posted
in netobjects.new-sites. Every one that I've tested fail CSS validation with
errors similar to my test sites. Has this not been noticed before?

Unlesss anyone has a fix I can only conclude that NOF is unable to generate
compliant CSS code. Please tell me I'm wrong, and that there is a fix...

What is also interesting is that a couple of these *don't* generate the “cursor
hand” errors. I wonder why?

Sites tested:
=============

http://www.sunnybankchurch.org.uk/ - NOF 9 - fails CSS validation with 3 “Value
Error : cursor hand is not a cursor value : hand” errors

http://www.holytrinity-madeira.com/ - NOF9 - fails with several “cursor hand”
errors, + others

http://www.humeridgechurch.org/ - NOF10 - fails with 8 “You must put an unit
after your number” errors

http://aloha.bien-etre.com/ - NOF v? -  fails with 129 errors of types “unit
after your number” and  “cursor hand”

http://www.mensgroups.org.nz/ - NOF v? - fails with 180 errors of types “unit
after your number” and  “cursor hand”

http://www.centpourcent-reception.com/ - NOF v? - 26 CSS validation errors of
the above types

http://users.isp.com/gentle_bear/ - NOF10 - 28 CSS validation errors of the
above types

http://www.colonialcandlecrafters.com/ - NOF v? - 8 validation errors of type
“cursor hand” & others

http://www.clodaghrodgers.co.uk/ - NOF9 - 35 validation errors of type “unit
after your number” (and “cursor hand” on other pages)

http://www.pagesnip.com/ - NOF10 - fails with 16 errors of types “unit after
your number” and  “cursor hand”


"Bravo" <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
>
>I'm experiencing a problem with NOD-generated CSS failing to validate. I'm
using NOD 9.1 (9.10.0000.5035) which is, I believe, the last build of version
9.
>
>In response to an earlier post (Which page layout? posted last Monday)
Charles suggested that this might be caused by a corruption in the .NOD file -
but this seems not to be the case, unless NOF is causing the corruption istelf.
I ran 2 tests to check this:
>
>Test1
>=====
>I created a new default site and saved it, making no changes, which I've
published at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bravo/_test1/index.html (dynamic layout,
comatibility set for MSIE4 and above). 
>
>When this is validated it generates one SCC validation error "Value
Error : cursor hand is not a cursor value : hand", which is one of the 2
types of error I was getting before.
>
>Test2
>=====
>I added a table to the default set, changed the layout region to 'fixed page
layout' (but keeping the page as dynamic page layout), and published the result
at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bravo/_test1/index.html.
>
>When this is validated it generates 30 extra CSS errors of the type
"only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number", the
other error I experienced before.
>
>Is anyone else able to reprduce these errors - or is it just my
installation, or just build 9.10.0000.5035? Even better, is there a known
solution?
>

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:46:44 -0000, Ritch wrote:

> I personally think it is the compliance testing.

You may be right.

As I posted in reply to Bravo's post in the NOF9 group, I looked at it.  On
PageSnip.com I see the same errors for CSS validation.

Adding the Units where needed is easy, changing the cursor:hand to
cursor:pointer would fix the other issue.

The cursor:hand is IE specific and should not be used.

This is a 30 minute fix if WSP just takes the time to do it.


Charles



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Charles,

I'm pretty sure the cursor:hand issue was brought up long ago.... like 
Fusion 8 maybe.

Would have to dig back into the archives.

Yes... should be a simple change.

Back in the early days, Fusion was extremely IE-centric. Still some of that 
lingering around it seems.

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"Charles Edmonds" <cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com> wrote in
message 
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:46:44 -0000, Ritch wrote:
>
>> I personally think it is the compliance testing.
>
> You may be right.
>
> As I posted in reply to Bravo's post in the NOF9 group, I looked at it. 
> On
> PageSnip.com I see the same errors for CSS validation.
>
> Adding the Units where needed is easy, changing the cursor:hand to
> cursor:pointer would fix the other issue.
>
> The cursor:hand is IE specific and should not be used.
>
> This is a 30 minute fix if WSP just takes the time to do it.
>
>
> Charles
>
>
>
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it!"
> www.clarionproseries.com - "Serious imaging tools for Clarion
Developers"
> www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners,
Buttons
> and Forms!"
> www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
> www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"