tips for other CNA's

I finally passed my CNA.  I want to pass on these tips.  These are 
obviously over and above the basic, essential task, which is simply to 
learn all the objectives in the exam.

1. Learn the NDS structure very well, including uncommon containers.
2. Practice working out effective rights for a user and an object on 
paper.  
3. Practice setting up NDPS many times.  
4. Apply common-sense and experience to general security questions.
5. Read about Netware 4 and 5 too, and work out how Netware 6 evolved.
6. Know the exact syntax of login script commands thoroughly.
7. Certain common "helpdesk" type issues, such as changing passwords,

unlocking intruder-detected accounts, and pausing printing, make up the 
CNA's daily grind, so practice these and expect questions which test your 
ability on them.
8. Use the Novell training kit.  Other third party guides have errors and 
deficiencies.  This is unlike some other certifications, 
where "unauthorized" guides can actually be better, due to better 
writers.  The Novell training kit is also good because the exam itself 
doesn't try to trick you; it's very fair.  There's no secret knowledge to 
be gained from other books.
9.  Use exam prep/question software.  I'm not going to give anyone a free 
plug here, but if you come across some practice questions from a company 
with the initials "PG" - that was a help.
10.  If like me you have recently come to use Netware from a Windows 
background, you need to be aware that you can't cram too much into a short 
period of time, because Netware is so different to what you are used to.  
It takes longer than you expect for it to really sink in.  (Maybe i'm just 
slow....)

For discussion of this, you can also write to me.  Happy to help.  (Just 
as I was happy and grateful to recieve help from this support forum)

regards,

"Milan" <scorpius90@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message :
>I finally passed my CNA.

Congratulations!


> 2. Practice working out effective rights for a user and an object on
> paper.

Very true and important.
If you can get a hand on the old Netware 3.12 or Netware 4 Red Books - The 
"Concepts" volume had some dozens of practice examples on calculating
file 
system effective rights. This hasn't changed since the old days (except IRFs 
were called IRMs in NW 3.x, the M=Mask).


> 6. Know the exact syntax of login script commands thoroughly.

This is a bit general and broad statement. Login scripts as of the good old 
DOS workstation days has many commands (FIRE PHASERS, WRITE, FDISPLAY, EXIT, 
ATTACH, CAPTURE and many others) and variables that are useless in a Windows 
world. I would restrict this statement primarily to knowing and 
understanding *all* variations of the MAP command and  INCLUDE, @, #, IF.

> 8. Use the Novell training kit.  Other third party guides have errors and
> deficiencies.  This is unlike some other certifications,
> where "unauthorized" guides can actually be better, due to
better
> writers.  The Novell training kit is also good because the exam itself
> doesn't try to trick you; it's very fair.  There's no secret knowledge to
> be gained from other books.

Very much agreed. When studying for M$ certifications, students will find 
out later or (hopefully) earlier that the Microsoft Official Curriculum 
Study Kits do *not* map to the corresponding exam objectives. I cannot 
understand why, however this is *intentional* and they publish it in the 
small letters at the beginning of their study guides. This is partially the 
reason for the overwhelming amount of third-party certification publications 
on M$ certifications. Novell, as you mention is *very* fair in this respect. 
They publish their official authorized materials, it's not cheap, however 
its almost the only thing you need to study for the exam. The Novell exams 
have no hidden objectives, everything is covered in the official study 
guide, although some items in the exam can come from very niche sentences or 
paragraphs.


> 10.  If like me you have recently come to use Netware from a Windows
> background, you need to be aware that you can't cram too much into a short
> period of time, because Netware is so different to what you are used to.
> It takes longer than you expect for it to really sink in.  (Maybe I'm just
> slow....)

Many of the participants on these forums, such as myself, have taken the 
ride the other way around ;-)


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Take a look at:

http://www.3wscertification.com/65CNAfacts.html

It might help a bit.

Warren


scorpius90@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> I finally passed my CNA.  I want to pass on these tips.  These are 
> obviously over and above the basic, essential task, which is simply to 
> learn all the objectives in the exam.
> 
> 1. Learn the NDS structure very well, including uncommon containers.
> 2. Practice working out effective rights for a user and an object on 
> paper.  
> 3. Practice setting up NDPS many times.  
> 4. Apply common-sense and experience to general security questions.
> 5. Read about Netware 4 and 5 too, and work out how Netware 6 evolved.
> 6. Know the exact syntax of login script commands thoroughly.
> 7. Certain common "helpdesk" type issues, such as changing
passwords, 
> unlocking intruder-detected accounts, and pausing printing, make up the 
> CNA's daily grind, so practice these and expect questions which test your 
> ability on them.
> 8. Use the Novell training kit.  Other third party guides have errors and 
> deficiencies.  This is unlike some other certifications, 
> where "unauthorized" guides can actually be better, due to better

> writers.  The Novell training kit is also good because the exam itself 
> doesn't try to trick you; it's very fair.  There's no secret knowledge to 
> be gained from other books.
> 9.  Use exam prep/question software.  I'm not going to give anyone a free 
> plug here, but if you come across some practice questions from a company 
> with the initials "PG" - that was a help.
> 10.  If like me you have recently come to use Netware from a Windows 
> background, you need to be aware that you can't cram too much into a short

> period of time, because Netware is so different to what you are used to.  
> It takes longer than you expect for it to really sink in.  (Maybe i'm just

> slow....)
> 
> For discussion of this, you can also write to me.  Happy to help.  (Just 
> as I was happy and grateful to recieve help from this support forum)
> 
> regards,

Take a look at:

http://www.3wscertification.com/65CNAfacts.html

It might help a bit.

Warren


scorpius90@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> I finally passed my CNA.  I want to pass on these tips.  These are 
> obviously over and above the basic, essential task, which is simply to 
> learn all the objectives in the exam.
> 
> 1. Learn the NDS structure very well, including uncommon containers.
> 2. Practice working out effective rights for a user and an object on 
> paper.  
> 3. Practice setting up NDPS many times.  
> 4. Apply common-sense and experience to general security questions.
> 5. Read about Netware 4 and 5 too, and work out how Netware 6 evolved.
> 6. Know the exact syntax of login script commands thoroughly.
> 7. Certain common "helpdesk" type issues, such as changing
passwords, 
> unlocking intruder-detected accounts, and pausing printing, make up the 
> CNA's daily grind, so practice these and expect questions which test your 
> ability on them.
> 8. Use the Novell training kit.  Other third party guides have errors and 
> deficiencies.  This is unlike some other certifications, 
> where "unauthorized" guides can actually be better, due to better

> writers.  The Novell training kit is also good because the exam itself 
> doesn't try to trick you; it's very fair.  There's no secret knowledge to 
> be gained from other books.
> 9.  Use exam prep/question software.  I'm not going to give anyone a free 
> plug here, but if you come across some practice questions from a company 
> with the initials "PG" - that was a help.
> 10.  If like me you have recently come to use Netware from a Windows 
> background, you need to be aware that you can't cram too much into a short

> period of time, because Netware is so different to what you are used to.  
> It takes longer than you expect for it to really sink in.  (Maybe i'm just

> slow....)
> 
> For discussion of this, you can also write to me.  Happy to help.  (Just 
> as I was happy and grateful to recieve help from this support forum)
> 
> regards,

"Warren E. Wyrostek" <wyrostekw@msn.com> wrote in message :
> Take a look at:
> 
> http://www.3wscertification.com/65CNAfacts.html
> 
> It might help a bit.
> 
> Warren


Looking at your link, IMHO it is an overkill and in many objectives
*mis-leading*. 
Some of the objectives listed are obsolete and others are not tested at all at
the CNA level.


For example :

3. You cannot introduce NetWare 6.5 into a tree that has a NetWare 4.10 server.
You must upgrade the 4.10 minimally to 4.11 before introducing NetWare 6.5. 

Migration is tested at the CNE levels not on the introductory CNA level.


7. NET.CFG is used with the Server Connection utility and configures the
Preferred Server, Preferred Tree, Frame Type, and Name Context. 

Bullsh...... When did you last configure NET.CFG or moreover frame type? Nothing
about this is tested at the CNA level today.


8.The default IPX frame type is Ethernet_802.2. The default IP frame type is
Ethernet_II. 

I don't recall any IPX questions in any of the NW 6 exams, and I passed them
all. Not to mention again, such is for CNE level not at the introductory CNA
level.

10. Use SETUPNW.EXE /508 to configure the Novell Client with Rehabilitation Act
accessibility features. 

Wow! I don't even know what this is. I have never observed such an item in the
Novell study guides. I admit I don't even know what this is, yet have passed my
NW 6 and NW 6.5 exams (all of them, some at scores of 800) and have not seen one
question about such a switch to SETUPNW.

14. Objects, Properties and Values; Tree object, Containers, Leaf objects;
Country, Organization, Organizational Unit. 

It is important to note that Novell changed the terminology between Properties
and Attributes in different utilities. So, essentially Properties = Attributes.

21. NetWare Administrator is located at SYS:\PUBLIC\WIN32\NWADMN32.EXE. 

NWAdmin is an indecent denounced word at Novell <g> and definitely is not
mentioned on any of the NW 6.x exams.
Otherwise, I agree it is important for an Administrator to know.

22. ConsoleOne is located at SYS:\PUBLIC\MGMT\CONSOLEONE\1.2\BIN 

Recommended that the C1 structure be copied to the local administrative
workstation local drive and launched locally.

29. You can create an NSS volume using ConsoleOne, NSSMU, or Remote Manager. 

Wrong !!  ConsoleOne no longer handles media. Functionality moved to iManager,
Remote Manager and NSSMU from server console.

44. Know what you can do with the C object right, and the special case when an
admin will assign it. 

??????
55. https://10.0.0.125/ipp provides secure access to iPrint services. 

You also need to include the secure 443 port number in the URL.

56. Maptool.htm can be accessed using http://10.0.0.125/ippdocs/Maptool.htm. 

You also need to include the 631 port number in the URL.

67. HOL, NAAS, and BindView can be used for monitoring and tracking security
breaches. 

No such questions or objectives in none of the NW 6.5 exams, definitely not at
the CNA level.

71. Know what you can do with Filer, Flag, NDIR, NCOPY, Remote Manager, C1,
NetWare Administrator, iMonitor, Rights and Rights /t, CX, CX /R/A/T, and
iManager. 

IIRC, some of the command line utilities (Rights) or Filer are no longer on the
objectives.

72. Absolutely know what type of object Role Based Services is, and where you
can configure RBS. 
73. OpenSSH-where do you find the OpenSSH manager? SSHD is used when? scp, sftp,
ssh. Know the syntax for opening an ssh session between NetWare 6.5 servers. 

These are definitely not entry-level CNA objectives and are not in course 3016,
but rather in 3042 and 3043.



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