Bye Bye Novell

I've been a CNE since 1991.  My clients are all SMB's.

Novell currently does not offer a price competitive SMB package along the 
lines of their Small Business Suite 6.x product.  Simple upgrades to things 
like GroupWise for existing Novell SMB customers are excessively expensive 
(it almost costs more to upgrade GW now than it did to purchase the entire 
SBS 6.x product in the first place).  Even trying to find the correct price 
for the product is a monumental struggle, as is finding a place to actually 
sell you the darn stuff.

Novell also abandoned users of GW6 in regards to DST patches even though GW6 
in some installations has only been running for about 3 years.

Novell used to be the "Gold Standard" when it came to performance and

reliability, but that now is far from the case.  I'm lucky to see a Novell 
SBS 6.0 or 6.5 SBS Server with GroupWise run for a month or two before it 
abends.  Service Packs are a joke, as they usually cause more problems than 
they fix, and in many cases will not install properly in the first place. 
You usually need to quickly grab and install a host of "Post SP fixes"
to 
get your Server back to a somewhat reliable state after a SP install.

And then people ask, "What happened to Novell?"

The answer is:   Novell self destructed.  They are their own worst enemy. 
Always have been, Always will be.

I hate to tell you Novell, that Linux is not the answer.  Yes Linux works, 
and it's pretty, but without application support for the masses, it'll never 
see any appreciable desktop penetration.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is not 
really playing with a full deck, so to speak.

Many would like to see Linux take hold in the desktop, but that will not 
happen until the "Joe Sixpack" of the SMB market can run their
applications 
on it, and we're a long,  long way from that happening.

So, Novell, it sure is obvious that you don't care about the SMB market, and 
have abandoned it totally and completely, along with folks like me.

Novell is a company without direction , leadership, and  purpose.  It's sad 
to see it come to this.

But that is OK.  I really don't mind.  I'm just stating the obvious anyway.

Bye Bye Novell.....:)

.......fanboi's can flame away if you care to....:)


 

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I just returned from BrainShare.  Straight from the CEO's mouth and in 
discussions I had with product specialists "the 1 to 30 employee small 
business is not a cost effective market".

<sigh>

Bob

Chucko wrote:
> I've been a CNE since 1991.  My clients are all SMB's.
> 
> Novell currently does not offer a price competitive SMB package along the 
> lines of their Small Business Suite 6.x product.  Simple upgrades to things

> like GroupWise for existing Novell SMB customers are excessively expensive

> (it almost costs more to upgrade GW now than it did to purchase the entire

> SBS 6.x product in the first place).  Even trying to find the correct price

> for the product is a monumental struggle, as is finding a place to actually

> sell you the darn stuff.
> 
> Novell also abandoned users of GW6 in regards to DST patches even though
GW6 
> in some installations has only been running for about 3 years.
> 
> Novell used to be the "Gold Standard" when it came to performance
and 
> reliability, but that now is far from the case.  I'm lucky to see a Novell

> SBS 6.0 or 6.5 SBS Server with GroupWise run for a month or two before it 
> abends.  Service Packs are a joke, as they usually cause more problems than

> they fix, and in many cases will not install properly in the first place. 
> You usually need to quickly grab and install a host of "Post SP
fixes" to 
> get your Server back to a somewhat reliable state after a SP install.
> 
> And then people ask, "What happened to Novell?"
> 
> The answer is:   Novell self destructed.  They are their own worst enemy. 
> Always have been, Always will be.
> 
> I hate to tell you Novell, that Linux is not the answer.  Yes Linux works,

> and it's pretty, but without application support for the masses, it'll
never 
> see any appreciable desktop penetration.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is
not 
> really playing with a full deck, so to speak.
> 
> Many would like to see Linux take hold in the desktop, but that will not 
> happen until the "Joe Sixpack" of the SMB market can run their
applications 
> on it, and we're a long,  long way from that happening.
> 
> So, Novell, it sure is obvious that you don't care about the SMB market,
and 
> have abandoned it totally and completely, along with folks like me.
> 
> Novell is a company without direction , leadership, and  purpose.  It's sad

> to see it come to this.
> 
> But that is OK.  I really don't mind.  I'm just stating the obvious
anyway.
> 
> Bye Bye Novell.....:)
> 
> .......fanboi's can flame away if you care to....:)
> 
> 
>  
>