Re: Dipped?

Clear DayQuite frankly, after viewing several of your picture posts of Indian
cents here recently, I must recommend that you attend even a small coin show,
seek out as many dealers as you can who have higher-grade Indian cents for sale,
both circulated and uncirculated, and learn what an unmolested example looks
like, and do this before you even consider spending any of your money on coins. 
I had accomplished this by the age of twelve, and so can you.  By the way, this
won't happen by reading books or by looking at online pictures - you must have
the coins in hand, and view them from multiple angles in good light.  Even
better is to take a knowledgeable and experienced friend with you.  In the
meantime, assuming that the picture this time is an accurate representation of
the coin, there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that the coin has been
monkeyed with, and rather harshly.  This does not mean that the coin is
uncollectible, but if I interpret your words correctly, finding a virgin coin is
a high priority for you.  Once you see a few, you will know the "look"
for the rest of your life.

James
  "don't look" <don't look@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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  Can you guys tell if this 1896 indian cent has been dipped or otherwise
cleaned. Thanks

"don't look" <don't look@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message 
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> Clear Day
> "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in
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> Quite frankly, after viewing several of your picture posts of Indian cents
> here recently, I must recommend that you attend even a small coin show, 
> seek
> out as many dealers as you can who have higher-grade Indian cents for 
> sale,
> both circulated and uncirculated, and learn what an unmolested example 
> looks
> like, and do this before you even consider spending any of your money on
> coins.  I had accomplished this by the age of twelve, and so can you.  By
> the way, this won't happen by reading books or by looking at online
> pictures - you must have the coins in hand, and view them from multiple
> angles in good light.  Even better is to take a knowledgeable and
> experienced friend with you.  In the meantime, assuming that the picture
> this time is an accurate representation of the coin, there is no doubt
> whatsoever in my mind that the coin has been monkeyed with, and rather
> harshly.  This does not mean that the coin is uncollectible, but if I
> interpret your words correctly, finding a virgin coin is a high priority 
> for
> you.  Once you see a few, you will know the "look" for the rest
of your
> life.
>
> James
> "don't look" <don't look@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message
> news:M1qrj.574813$kj1.401698@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Can you guys tell if this 1896 indian cent has been dipped or otherwise
> cleaned. Thanks
>
> Do my question bug you? I was not interested in buying this thing,just
> testing myself.That's 90% of what my questions here are about.
> Almost everyone over at fleabay has their own photo techniques to make
> their coins look better. This sometimes leads to confusion.  This group
> seems like a good place to test my hunches, being so anti-ebay and
> all.Well,mostly
> If you don't like it say so. I don't have to be told I'm not an expert.I'm
> the first to say that. I just have a lot of time on my hands,being 
> disabled
> in a MC accident. So,I'm online alot!!

Your questions do not bug me.  I am incapable of reading your mind, so I did 
the best I could with the information you provided.  I gave you my honest 
opinion, based on my own experience.  I am not anti-eBay.  I am not an 
expert.  I'm sorry to learn that you had an accident and are disabled.  My 
advice was offered in the spirit of education, which was my life's work. 
Whether to accept it or reject it is entirely your call.

James 

Clear DayCan you guys tell if this 1896 indian cent has been dipped or otherwise
cleaned. Thanks

Clear Day
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Quite frankly, after viewing several of your picture posts of Indian cents
here recently, I must recommend that you attend even a small coin show, seek
out as many dealers as you can who have higher-grade Indian cents for sale,
both circulated and uncirculated, and learn what an unmolested example looks
like, and do this before you even consider spending any of your money on
coins.  I had accomplished this by the age of twelve, and so can you.  By
the way, this won't happen by reading books or by looking at online
pictures - you must have the coins in hand, and view them from multiple
angles in good light.  Even better is to take a knowledgeable and
experienced friend with you.  In the meantime, assuming that the picture
this time is an accurate representation of the coin, there is no doubt
whatsoever in my mind that the coin has been monkeyed with, and rather
harshly.  This does not mean that the coin is uncollectible, but if I
interpret your words correctly, finding a virgin coin is a high priority for
you.  Once you see a few, you will know the "look" for the rest of
your
life.

James
"don't look" <don't look@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:M1qrj.574813$kj1.401698@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Can you guys tell if this 1896 indian cent has been dipped or otherwise
cleaned. Thanks

Do my question bug you? I was not interested in buying this thing,just
testing myself.That's 90% of what my questions here are about.
 Almost everyone over at fleabay has their own photo techniques to make
their coins look better. This sometimes leads to confusion.  This group
seems like a good place to test my hunches, being so anti-ebay and
all.Well,mostly
 If you don't like it say so. I don't have to be told I'm not an expert.I'm
the first to say that. I just have a lot of time on my hands,being disabled
in a MC accident. So,I'm online alot!!

"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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>
> "don't look" <don't look@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message
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> > Clear Day
> > "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in
message
> > news:folg880l4g@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > Quite frankly, after viewing several of your picture posts of Indian
cents
> > here recently, I must recommend that you attend even a small coin
show,
> > seek
> > out as many dealers as you can who have higher-grade Indian cents for
> > sale,
> > both circulated and uncirculated, and learn what an unmolested
example
> > looks
> > like, and do this before you even consider spending any of your money
on
> > coins.  I had accomplished this by the age of twelve, and so can you.
By
> > the way, this won't happen by reading books or by looking at online
> > pictures - you must have the coins in hand, and view them from
multiple
> > angles in good light.  Even better is to take a knowledgeable and
> > experienced friend with you.  In the meantime, assuming that the
picture
> > this time is an accurate representation of the coin, there is no
doubt
> > whatsoever in my mind that the coin has been monkeyed with, and
rather
> > harshly.  This does not mean that the coin is uncollectible, but if I
> > interpret your words correctly, finding a virgin coin is a high
priority
> > for
> > you.  Once you see a few, you will know the "look" for the
rest of your
> > life.
> >
> > James
> > "don't look" <don't look@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message
> > news:M1qrj.574813$kj1.401698@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > Can you guys tell if this 1896 indian cent has been dipped or
otherwise
> > cleaned. Thanks
> >
> > Do my question bug you? I was not interested in buying this
thing,just
> > testing myself.That's 90% of what my questions here are about.
> > Almost everyone over at fleabay has their own photo techniques to
make
> > their coins look better. This sometimes leads to confusion.  This
group
> > seems like a good place to test my hunches, being so anti-ebay and
> > all.Well,mostly
> > If you don't like it say so. I don't have to be told I'm not an
expert.I'm
> > the first to say that. I just have a lot of time on my hands,being
> > disabled
> > in a MC accident. So,I'm online alot!!
>
> Your questions do not bug me.  I am incapable of reading your mind, so I
did
> the best I could with the information you provided.  I gave you my honest
> opinion, based on my own experience.  I am not anti-eBay.  I am not an
> expert.  I'm sorry to learn that you had an accident and are disabled.  My
> advice was offered in the spirit of education, which was my life's work.
> Whether to accept it or reject it is entirely your call.
>
> James
>
>

I never reject an opinion. Well,almost never.