Font (I guess) woes

I have two "identical" (meaning as far as I can tell,
but obviously, not really) machines.

Looking at this page:

http://diggiloo.net/?am

I see the correct script on one of the machines, and
only empty squares in that location on the other.

But looking at this page (on the same site):

http://diggiloo.net/?2008am

I see empty squares on the first machine, and the
correct characters on the second!

How do I diagnose this so I can always see the
correct characters?

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:09:31 -0000, Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
<eirik@opera.com> wrote:

> My best guess is that you have different sets of fonts
> installed on the two machines.

I know I have the same fonts INSTALLED on both machines
(I certainly don't know about the configuration - X
configuration or Opera configuration or whatever).

> I have no idea how to debug that, though.

I hoped that Opera would have some way of telling the

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:39:20 -0400, 0 <root@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

> http://diggiloo.net/?2008am
> I see empty squares on the first machine, and the
> correct characters on the second!

Two things.  First ensure the core x fonts are disabled.
$ cat /etc/opera6rc.fixed
; Settings in this file are not overridable by users
[User Prefs]
Enable Core X Fonts=0

Checking the above site (which displays fine here), using "opera
--debugfont"
shows it's picking arial, for all characters on that page.  As the encoding
is utf-8, that would be the Arial unicode microsoft font.

If you have a valid m$ system, copy Arialuni.ttf to your linux system, and
use your distribution's font utilities, to install it.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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0 <root@mouse-potato.com> writes:

> I have two "identical" (meaning as far as I can tell,
> but obviously, not really) machines.
>
> Looking at this page:
>
> http://diggiloo.net/?am
>
> I see the correct script on one of the machines, and
> only empty squares in that location on the other.
>
> But looking at this page (on the same site):
>
> http://diggiloo.net/?2008am

... And click "armenian script"

>
> I see empty squares on the first machine, and the
> correct characters on the second!
>
> How do I diagnose this so I can always see the
> correct characters?
>
> Thanks.

Odd.  I have (probably) correct glyphs on both pages.  My best guess
is that you have different sets of fonts installed on the two
machines.  The two pages are obviously quite different, so maybe opera
tries different fonts on the two pages.  Thus getting different
results.

I have no idea how to debug that, though.

0 <root@mouse-potato.com> writes:

> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:09:31 -0000, Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
<eirik@opera.com> wrote:
>
>> My best guess is that you have different sets of fonts
>> installed on the two machines.
>
> I know I have the same fonts INSTALLED on both machines
> (I certainly don't know about the configuration - X
> configuration or Opera configuration or whatever).
>
>> I have no idea how to debug that, though.
>
> I hoped that Opera would have some way of telling the
> user what fonts it uses for a specific page.

Actually, I think we used to have some way of doing that, either
through an environment variable or a command switch.  You could try
'opera --help' to list the command switches.  Maybe there's a
'-debugfonts' or something?