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Website browser objectivity

Website browser objectivity
Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:16:40 -050
I was wondering:  Can there be any advantage to the website that 
purposely makes it difficult for Opera users to display it?  They 
would be losing some traffic which isn't good.  Or is it pressure from 
Microsoft?  And is Mozilla big enough that they could pressure a 
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Re: Website browser objectivity
Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:45:12 +020
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:16:40 +0200, The New Guy <replytogroup@here.thanks>
 
wrote:

> I was wondering:  Can there be any advantage to the website that
> purposely makes it difficult for Opera users to display it?  They
> would be losing some traffic which isn't good.  Or is it pressure from
> Microsoft?  And is Mozilla big enough that they could pressure a
> website?

I wrote an article about that.
http://my.opera.com/OmegaJunior/blog/2007/03/13/browser-incompatibility-lazy-aut
hor

-- 
Sincerely,
ΩJr

Using Opera, Version 9.21, Build 8776
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Re: Website browser objectivity
Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:25:42 +020
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:45:12 +0200, OmegaJunior  
<omegajunior.spam.remove@omegajunior.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:16:40 +0200, The New Guy  
> <replytogroup@here.thanks> wrote:
>
>> I was wondering:  Can there be any advantage to the website that
>> purposely makes it difficult for Opera users to display it?

'Purposely' not, it is never worth your money to work on _excluding_  
browsers. But working on _including_ browsers, after you've spend hundreds  
or thousands of hours on getting it to work in IE 6, is a different  
matter. Even getting those sites to work in IE7 is sometimes serious work.  
Especially for the less gifted developers, or those using frameworks etc  
that only consider on or two browsers.

So many developers (of the kind described above) were angry because IE 7  
does some things different than IE 6 (IE 7 is more standards compliant,  
usually!), that the MSIE developers will be double as careful not to  
inflect any changes on webdesigners when IE 8 gets developed. Which is  
frustating for Mozilla, Safari and Opera because we'd like IE8 to render  
even more standards compliant, so we have to spend less time on mimicking  
IE-quirks...

>> They
>> would be losing some traffic which isn't good.  Or is it pressure from
>> Microsoft?  And is Mozilla big enough that they could pressure a
>> website?

Mozilla (at least, Firefox) is big enough now. And they inherited quite  
some developer-love from the time Netscape 3 ruled the browser world. They  
also effectively let their users campaign for website compatability. And  
even they got quite some mail from users who said "I'm going back to MSIE 

because Firefox doesn't work on site foo.bar".

> I wrote an article about that.
>
http://my.opera.com/OmegaJunior/blog/2007/03/13/browser-incompatibility-lazy-aut
hor


-- 
Rijk

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