Screen Rendition slightly off in Opera

As I am starting to familiarize myself with Opera, I find that some sites  
render to the left of my screen. My resolution is set to 1280 x 768. This  
does not happen in other browsers I have used before.

Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated.

Richard Grevers scribed:

>On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:53:20 +1200, Rijk van Geijtenbeek  
><rijk@opera.invalid.removethis.com> wrote:
>
>> Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:31:32 +0200 schreef P.J.Berg  
>> <BergRace@bogus.no.invalid>:
>> ..
>>
>>> Opera 9.27 on OsX 10.5.2
>>>
>>> A daily visit to the four main Norwegian papers: Vg.no ,
Aftenposten.no  
>>> , Dagsavisen.no , Dagbladet.no along with Dinside.no will give you 

>>> examples.
>>> Not necessarily on the opening/front page, but in articles within.
>>>
>>> Here is one of the last examples I can remember as of now:  
>>> http://oslopuls.no/restaurant/article2348808.ece
>>> This page renders perfectly in Safari.
>>
>> Looks fine in 9.27 here (on Windows XP), same as in Firefox 2 and Opera
 
>> 9.5.
>
>I'm definitely seeing that problem: All the large images in the main  
>column except the top one have a paragraph of text overlaid. Here's the  
>source for the first one (ugh - entire source of huge web page on a single 

>line!):
>
><p/><span class="mel">Til bakgatene
</span><span class="articleImage"  
>style="&#10;	float: left;&#10; margin:3px 3px 1px 0;&#10;
"><img  
>src="http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00735/_0001024085_jpg_735215g.
jpg"  
>alt="" style="width:466px;height:359px;border:px solid  
>#000;border-color:"/><p class="bildeTekst">Etter
arbeidstid samles alle på  
>Revolver. F.v.: Mette Rojahn, Willy Mørne Eikeland (daglig leder på  
>Revolver), Ole Øvstedal (barsjef på Revolver og medeier på Rubber Soul),  
>Yvonn Trippestad (bartender på Revolver og daglig leder på Rubber Soul) og 

>Dan Marius Nordhagen (også daglig leder på Revolver samt medeier på Rubber 

>Soul). Frisørene burde selvsagt også vært med på bildet, men var opptatt  
>med, vel, å klippe hår. </p>
>
>I'm guessing that it is something to do with Opera's interpretation of  
><p/> - or maybe the escaped linefeeds.

Here's what I'm seeing in all the center column images with 9.27/WXP/SP1:
<www.edbjay.com/snap1.jpg>.
-- 

I should have included the example, but since I designed the page...  :)  
...and it was only one page in several hundred I looked into the rendering  
(after the post, sorry) and realized that it was part of the html code  
that was wrong. Once corrected the rendering of the page looks fine, just  
like the rest.

I would suggest that is something more common than not because people will  
probably design for IE and Firefox that have the largest market share.  
That said, I am now an Opera fan and after trying out all the other  
players, including Maxthon, I think that Opera definitely offers much more  
than the others. Yes, it takes a while to learn the many features, but  
once you do that, you're hooked. Opera reminds me of the best  
wordprocessor in the world... by far. It is called WordPerfect and nothing  
comes close. I like to call it a professional wordprocessor. Opera is a  
professional browser.

Maxthon has that auto-hide feature I mentioned earlier... it should be  
placed on a wishlist because it is a terrific feature.

Thanks for the help and feedback.

Peter


On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:41:55 -0400, Rijk van Geijtenbeek  
<rijk@opera.invalid.removethis.com> wrote:

> Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:15:48 +0200 schreef P.J.Berg  
> <BergRace@bogus.no.invalid>:
>
>> On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:08:26 +0200, Dr. Finn
<"<1234"@123> wrote:
>>
>>> As I am starting to familiarize myself with Opera, I find that some
 
>>> sites render to the left of my screen. My resolution is set to 1280
x  
>>> 768. This does not happen in other browsers I have used before.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated.
>
> Without example URLs these is little to suggest I'm afraid. There is not  
> a generic known problem to cause such results.
>
>> Rendering is generaly poor with Opera, text on top of pictures etc.
>> I find this with Norwegian online Newspapers all the time, even with  
>> very popular Norwegian sites like Dinside.no .
>> Strange since Opera is based right here in Oslo, should think they  
>> would do some testing on local sites, but no..
>
> Please don't be so generic in your judgement... Dinside.no (frontpage  
> and an article linked from the frontpage) looked fine here. Dr Finn gave  
> zero example, so I can't comment on his experiences. Yes, Opera's  
> rendering is sometimes different, especially in edge cases with  
> overcontrained tables and floats in narrow areas. And as we do want to  
> be compatible with the web as it exists, developers are fixing and  
> changing things in each version. You'll find Opera 9.5 to be better in  
> such cases compared to 9.2 for example.
>



-- 

Nisse Engström scribed:

>On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:21:20 +1200, Richard Grevers wrote:
>
>>> Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:31:32 +0200 schreef P.J.Berg  
>>> <BergRace@bogus.no.invalid>:
>>> ..
>>>> Here is one of the last examples I can remember as of now:  
>>>> http://oslopuls.no/restaurant/article2348808.ece
>>>> This page renders perfectly in Safari.
>> 
>> I'm definitely seeing that problem: All the large images in the main  
>> column except the top one have a paragraph of text overlaid. Here's the
 
>> source for the first one (ugh - entire source of huge web page on a
single  
>> line!):
>> 
>> <p/><span class="mel">Til bakgatene
</span><span class="articleImage"  
>> style="&#10;	float: left;&#10; margin:3px 3px 1px
0;&#10; "><img  
>>
src="http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00735/_0001024085_jpg_735215g.jpg&
quot;  
>> alt="" style="width:466px;height:359px;border:px solid 

>> #000;border-color:"/><p
class="bildeTekst">Etter arbeidstid samles alle på  
>
>
>If I'm not mistaken, there is a </span> missing. I have
>no idea whether this is causing any actual problems, but
>it is exactly the sort of thing that Opera tend to handle
>differently than the other major browsers...
>
I didn't check before, but the validator provides a clue: 
"Failed validation, 221 Errors." :-)
-- 

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:08:26 +0200, Dr. Finn <"<1234"@123>
wrote:

> As I am starting to familiarize myself with Opera, I find that some  
> sites render to the left of my screen. My resolution is set to 1280 x  
> 768. This does not happen in other browsers I have used before.
>
> Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated.
>
> Peter

Rendering is generaly poor with Opera, text on top of pictures etc.
I find this with Norwegian online Newspapers all the time, even with very  
popular Norwegian sites like Dinside.no .
Strange since Opera is based right here in Oslo, should think they would  
do some testing on local sites, but no..

J.



--