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Re: YouTube not playing nice with Opera 8.54 as of April
2008

Re: YouTube not playing nice with Opera 8.54 as of April 2008
Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:40:00 -050
Ultra Man <no_mail@anywhere.com> wrote:

> 	I've never had a problem with YouTube before, but every video I've been 
> attempting to watch lately hangs like crazy.  Mouse cursor freezes up a 
> lot too as I'm trying to move around the page.  It doesn't freeze up 
> permanently, it acts like I have a dial up connection or something.  I 
> haven't made any changes to my system, and I'm not having any trouble 
> with any other websites.  No issues watching the same clips on Firefox 
> either.  Any thoughts?

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YouTube not playing nice with Opera 8.54 as of April 2008
Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:42:52 -040
	I've never had a problem with YouTube before, but every video I've been 
attempting to watch lately hangs like crazy.  Mouse cursor freezes up a 
lot too as I'm trying to move around the page.  It doesn't freeze up 
permanently, it acts like I have a dial up connection or something.  I 
haven't made any changes to my system, and I'm not having any trouble 
with any other websites.  No issues watching the same clips on Firefox 
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Re: YouTube not playing nice with Opera 8.54 as of April 2008
Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:10:22 +010
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:42:52 +0100, Ultra Man <no_mail@anywhere.com>
wrote:

> 	I've never had a problem with YouTube before, but every video I've been  
> attempting to watch lately hangs like crazy.  Mouse cursor freezes up a  
> lot too as I'm trying to move around the page.  It doesn't freeze up  
> permanently, it acts like I have a dial up connection or something.  I  
> haven't made any changes to my system, and I'm not having any trouble  
> with any other websites.  No issues watching the same clips on Firefox  
> either.  Any thoughts?

As of yesterday, You Tube has suddenly been very sluggish here in 8.54  
too. It really doesn't like me hovering over links.

It seems they've changed their stylesheet and there are an awful lot of  
:hover rules on many different elements (not just links but also on  
containing inline and block elements).

By removing four specific rules, the site is no longer sluggish for me. It  
has to be all of the properties in these rules removed for the problem to  
go away, not just the cursor OR the text-decoration properties so I don't  
know if it's some kind of conflict with another part of the stylesheet or  
a problem in Opera's old CSS parser dealing with all the overriding hover  
rules. Here are the rules:

/* From http://s.ytimg.com/yt/css/base_all-vfl37593.css */

/* Rule found at line 3958 */
.watch-tabs div:hover,
.watch-tabs div:hover a,
.watch-tabs div a:hover {
	text-decoration: underline;
	cursor: hand;
	cursor: pointer;
}

/* Rule found at line 3965 */
.watch-tabs div.watch-tab-sel:hover,
.watch-tabs div.watch-tab-sel:hover a,
.watch-tabs div.watch-tab-sel a:hover,
.watch-tabs div.disabled:hover,
.watch-tabs div.disabled:hover a,
.watch-tabs div.disabled a:hover {
	text-decoration: none;
	cursor: default;
}

/* Rule found at line 4042 */
#watch-actions-area .watch-tabs div:hover .watch-action-text,
#watch-actions-area .watch-tabs a:hover .watch-action-text {
	text-decoration: underline;
}

/* Rule found at line 4046 */
#watch-actions-area .watch-tabs div.watch-tab-sel:hover .watch-action-text,
#watch-actions-area .watch-tabs div.disabled:hover .watch-action-text,
#watch-actions-area .watch-tabs div:hover,
#watch-actions-area .watch-tabs div a:hover,
#watch-actions-area .watch-tabs div:hover a {
	text-decoration: none;
}

If it was Opera 9, you could just disable author CSS for You Tube and  
apply your own copy of their stylesheet with those rules removed, but...  
the problem is with Opera 8 which doesn't have site preferences and I  
haven't been able to fix the problem sinply by overriding those rules with  
four additional rules. They must be removed from the original stylesheet.

If you want, I could try to knock up a user Javascript to change the  
stylesheet before Opera starts rendering anything, and post a link to it  
here? Of course... if You Tube change their stylesheet and markup again it  
may lead to other rendering problems later on if an old custom stylesheet  
is still being applied, but that's something to worry about when it  
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Re: YouTube not playing nice with Opera 8.54 as of April 2008
Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:03:33 -050
Ultra Man <no_mail@anywhere.com> wrote:

> Eik wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:50:36 +0100, Ultra Man
<no_mail@anywhere.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> My biggest reservation about doing so is that I have highly
customized 
> >> menu.ini & toolbar.ini files and I haven't been in the mood to
redo 
> >> them, and I don't want to use Opera without them.
> > 
> > That's why I'm still on 8.54 too ;-)
> > 
> > But... with 9.5 on the way I don't see any point in starting to 
> > customise 9.2 now.
> 
> 	Good point, maybe I'll hold out a little longer and use Firefox for 
> YouTube until v9.5 comes out.

I've customized since starting with Opera 4 or 5, and have rarely had to
recreate the mods.  Earlier on I saved the files and then copied in
after the install.  With 9, and perhaps 8, that's unnecessary, but not
a bad idea to save the key files anyway. 

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Re: YouTube not playing nice with Opera 8.54 as of April 2008
Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:50:36 GMT
	Thanks for establishing what the problem was.  Sounds like I should 
just upgrade to Opera 9.x as the other responder suggested.  My biggest 
reservation about doing so is that I have highly customized menu.ini & 
toolbar.ini files and I haven't been in the mood to redo them, and I 
don't want to use Opera without them.  Time to tighten the jockstrap and 
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