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POP3 on Vista

POP3 on Vista
Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:46:05 +010
Hi experts,

I just got a new machine, pre-installed with Vista, and I experience a  
strange behaviour with Opera 9.26 (freshly installed)

I have copied my whole 'mail' catalog from the old XP machine, and it  
seems like my whole mail database is working fine.

I have 2 different mail accounts (POP3) that I am polling, but on the  
Vista machine it seems like that connections to the POP hosts is never  
finished properly - if I look at the small connection status window, the  
accounts keeps saying 'Checking folder' for several minutes (I guess it is  
timing out eventually). If the poll resulted in getting a new message, the  
status is 'Fetching message' for several minutes after the message arrived.

It may sound like a small problem, but it also affects how my messages are  
send - they can stay in outbox for a very long time.

The XP machine standing right besides the Vista does not do this, here the  
accounts goes to 'Ready to connect' immediately after polling

I have tried disabling the Windows firewall and the virus check, to no  
effect.

I have also tried the TCp windows scaling hack mentioned in  
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Resolve-Outlook-2007-and-POP3-Performance-Issues-
52153.shtml,  
but it also had no effect.

Anybody else seen this problem, and knows what to do with it?

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Re: POP3 on Vista
Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:17:06 -040
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:44:25 -0400, Carsten Mathiasen <nospam@tome.com>
wrote:

> Is there really not anybody else that have had this problem?

Not that I know of, but also, very few people I know are using vista.

I'd start by turning on the mail logging, as per
http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/mail/troubleshoot/

If you capture a log that shows the problem, post it here, but be sure
to edit out the password, first.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Re: POP3 on Vista
Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:44:25 +020
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:46:05 +0100, Carsten Mathiasen <nospam@tome.com>  
wrote:

Is there really not anybody else that have had this problem?

Carsten

> Hi experts,
>
> I just got a new machine, pre-installed with Vista, and I experience a  
> strange behaviour with Opera 9.26 (freshly installed)
>
> I have copied my whole 'mail' catalog from the old XP machine, and it  
> seems like my whole mail database is working fine.
>
> I have 2 different mail accounts (POP3) that I am polling, but on the  
> Vista machine it seems like that connections to the POP hosts is never  
> finished properly - if I look at the small connection status window, the  
> accounts keeps saying 'Checking folder' for several minutes (I guess it  
> is timing out eventually). If the poll resulted in getting a new  
> message, the status is 'Fetching message' for several minutes after the  
> message arrived.
>
> It may sound like a small problem, but it also affects how my messages  
> are send - they can stay in outbox for a very long time.
>
> The XP machine standing right besides the Vista does not do this, here  
> the accounts goes to 'Ready to connect' immediately after polling
>
> I have tried disabling the Windows firewall and the virus check, to no  
> effect.
>
> I have also tried the TCp windows scaling hack mentioned in  
>
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Resolve-Outlook-2007-and-POP3-Performance-Issues-
52153.shtml,  
> but it also had no effect.
>
> Anybody else seen this problem, and knows what to do with it?
>
> Carsten Mathiasen
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Re: POP3 on Vista
Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:34:34 +020
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:17:06 +0200, David W. Hodgins  
<dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:44:25 -0400, Carsten Mathiasen
<nospam@tome.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Is there really not anybody else that have had this problem?
>
> Not that I know of, but also, very few people I know are using vista.
>
> I'd start by turning on the mail logging, as per
> http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/mail/troubleshoot/
>
> If you capture a log that shows the problem, post it here, but be sure
> to edit out the password, first.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

OK, thanks for that pointer, I have now tried to make such a logfile.

Original problem description:
=======================================================
I have copied my whole 'mail' catalog from the old XP machine, and it  
seems like my whole mail database is working fine.

I have 2 different mail accounts (POP3) that I am polling, but on the  
Vista machine it seems like that connections to the POP hosts is never  
finished properly - if I look at the small connection status window, the  
accounts keeps saying 'Checking folder' for several minutes (I guess it is  
timing out eventually). If the poll resulted in getting a new message, the  
status is 'Fetching message' for several minutes after the message arrived.

It may sound like a small problem, but it also affects how my messages are  
send - they can stay in outbox for a very long time.

The XP machine standing right besides the Vista does not do this, here the  
accounts goes to 'Ready to connect' immediately after polling

I have tried disabling the Windows firewall and the virus check, to no  
effect.

I have also tried the TCp windows scaling hack mentioned in  
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Resolve-Outlook-2007-and-POP3-Performance-Issues-
52153.shtml,  
but it also had no effect.
=======================================================
I tried without enabling interval poll, and the accounts did not time out  
in the 11 minutes I waited.

Here comes the log file:

==== Logging started ====

21:47:00 POP3 IN :
+OK Cubic Circle's v1.31 1998/05/13 POP3 ready  
<0a3a0100a8cbfb47@user3.cybercity.dk>


21:47:00
HandleReply


21:47:00 POP3 OUT :
CAPA


21:47:00 POP3 IN :
-ERR Invalid command, try one of: USER name, PASS string, APOP name  
digest, QUIT


21:47:00
HandleReply


21:47:00 POP3 OUT :
USER dsl*****


21:47:00 POP3 IN :
+OK dsl***** selected


21:47:00
HandleReply


21:47:00 POP3 OUT :
PASS *****


21:47:00 POP3 IN :
+OK Congratulations!


21:47:00
HandleReply


21:47:00 POP3 OUT :
STAT


21:47:00 POP3 IN :
+OK 30 797008


21:47:00
HandleReply


21:47:00 POP3 OUT :
UIDL


21:47:00 POP3 IN :
+OK But remember to DELETE messages REGULARLY
1 1e65cbaeaa0e0000
2 40dcd04389c10000
3 1ec6fe4efcc00000
4 2b2691eaa32f0000
5 4f38bdbae9c20000
6 1a82d251c5150000
7 ea07b4fff3150000
8 f6537a58f6150000
9 b6300f4b53160000
10 e1581f8e6fc40000
11 fc3c8c4edc150000
12 e87bf167be110000
13 64982afca4150000
14 236a12fee8c20000
15 e1aa18e3a0150000
16 1b0b844e1fc40000
17 ef7b81adaec30000
18 d64682499dc70000
19 a5c18915a60e0000
20 965eccb532c30000
21 70e0486637080000
22 9b59a4119b490000
23 b9771e1c64c20000
24 9542c3c8f8900000
25 54d7648723c30000
26 e33fa35bf9c10000
27 4e98a92811130000
28 f88418ac1e390000
29 119b0170cb150000
30 c5e264c2cdc20000
.


21:47:00
HandleReply


21:47:00 POP3 OUT :
QUIT


21:47:00 POP3 IN :
+OK Was it as good for you, as it was for me?  (clean as a baby)


21:47:00
HandleReply

============================================================================

Then I waited 11 minutes and terminated Opera, but no more lines were  
added after the initial poll. The account status was 'checking folder' and  
the icon for 'Check/Send' was a red cross during the whole time.

The log files for the other POP account is very much like this one, so it  
is not posted here.

I hope there are somebody out there that can explain why the connection  
does not seem to be terminated

Netstat says:

   TCP    192.168.0.100:63109    user2.cybercity.dk:pop3  CLOSE_WAIT

..all the time

Hope somebody can help me...

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Re: POP3 on Vista
Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:29:05 -040
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:34:34 -0400, Carsten Mathiasen <nospam@tome.com>
wrote:

> 21:47:00 POP3 IN :
> +OK But remember to DELETE messages REGULARLY
> 1 1e65cbaeaa0e0000
> .
> 21:47:00
> HandleReply
> 21:47:00 POP3 OUT :
> QUIT

<lots snipped>

From my testing, after opera received the "." indicating the end of
the
list, it should have shown
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