Opera's news server and spam

I've seen spam in this newsgroup, which full headers (including
"Path:")
indicate to have been posted from Opera's own news server (news.opera.com);
also regularly see the following header in each item:

X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.opera.com

But all that ever happens when I try to report the info is:

<usenet@news.opera.com>... Deferred: Connection refused by news.opera.com

(until our SMTP server gives up, after a few days).

So please add to the "wishlist" a wish that the news server operator
provide a functioning mail address for reporting spam, thanks.

John H Meyers <jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> schreef op Sun, 13 Apr 2008  
01:39:46 +0200:

> I've seen spam in this newsgroup, which full headers (including
"Path:")
> indicate to have been posted from Opera's own news server  
> (news.opera.com);
> also regularly see the following header in each item:
>
> X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.opera.com
>
> But all that ever happens when I try to report the info is:
>
> <usenet@news.opera.com>... Deferred: Connection refused by
news.opera.com
>
> (until our SMTP server gives up, after a few days).
>
> So please add to the "wishlist" a wish that the news server
operator
> provide a functioning mail address for reporting spam, thanks.

If the purpose of reporting spam is only to get it canceled, I think a  
'report spam' feature is not really necessary. In fact I believe most spam  
is periodically removed from Opera's servers. (Try a fresh install and see  
if those spam messages reappear.)

What would be nice is if Opera could cancel more often. At the moment I  
still see a lot of spam messages getting through. Obviously cancelling one  
or two times a day will still get these messages in many people's mail  
boxes.

(What I would also like to add to the wishlist is that Opera's built-in  
spam filter actually worked. At the moment the most obvious spam in  
newsgroups and feeds is not caught and marked, which leads me to believe  
spam filtering only works for mail. Incidentally only newsgroups and feeds  
are mediums that deliver me spam.)

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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:34:05 -0500, FV wrote:

> If the purpose of reporting spam is only to get it canceled, I think a
> 'report spam' feature is not really necessary. In fact I believe most spam
> is periodically removed from Opera's servers. (Try a fresh install and see
> if those spam messages reappear.)

A fresh install of what?  Throw out all my archives and setup Opera anew every
day,
as a practical method for cleaning up each prior day's spam?

Cancels are largely ignored elsewhere, so the moment a spam is posted,
it propagates and goes elsewhere (such as to my news provider, which isn't
Opera),
and it's too late for any later removal at Opera to have any effect.

Thus, the purpose is to identify the source
and prevent it from getting posted in the first place
(this spam was injected into the distribution system at Opera,
so that would be the logically best place to stop it,
and thus the most important place to report it,
as is the general principle about all spam reporting).

By the way, my own provider got a copy of my message that Opera bounced
back to me, and since the moment it was acknowledged by my server operator,
no more of that long series of spams have been accepted there; thus there
was either an accidental coincidence, or someone running my server
can manage it better than Opera does its own.

It's also a bit impolite to publish an address and invite reports
and then bounce any that users take the trouble to make.