Solomon Object Model

Solomon Dynamics SL 6.5

Two questions. 

1).  From reading other posts the Solomon Object model seems to be the best 
way to get information into the database while keeping the business rules and 
integrity of the database.  I was wondering if you can use any of the .net 
programing languages to get this COM object?  And what .dll you would have to 
install and do they come with the Solomon package?

2).  We are planning on using this method to make our own timecard that 
employee's would fill out and would be imported through some kind of process. 
 Currently we are using Business portal to have the employees enter their 
time.  If we manage to figure out the Solomon Object model and can write our 
own timecard system we won't have a use for business portal for most of our 
users.  We were wondering if we would need to keep our CAL's for business 
portal that we have for each employee in order to use the SOLOMON OBJECT 
MODEL.  Or can we get rid of them? 

Thanks,

Justin Jones

Does anyone know the answer to the CAL question below?

"Barry Flynn" wrote:

> Justin
> 
> There's a file called siv_ob.pdf which is a developer's guide to the object

> model.
> I'm not sure if it gets installed  when you install  Solomon - if not its 
> somewhere on the CDs - possibly the second CD.
> 
> > We are planning on using this method to make our own timecard that
> > employee's would fill out and would be imported through some kind of 
> > process.
> 
> Tine Entry is not a strong point of mine - but there's a Solomon screen for

> Time Entry.
> Have you consudered using that?
> 
> > We were wondering if we would need to keep our CAL's for business
> > portal that we have for each employee in order to use the SOLOMON
OBJECT
> > MODEL.
> 
> Licensing is not a strong point of mine either.
> I'm pretty sure that use of the object model does require a license - 
> effectively you are using a Solomon screen, and you need the same licensing

> as if the user was directly operating that screen.
> I don't know if that licensre is the same as a Business Portal license.
> 
> Perhaps someone who knows a bit more about licensing than me (which 
> shouldn't be hard) can comment.
> 
> Barry
> 
> -- 
> Barry Flynn
> Complete Solutions DG
> 
> 
> "Justin Jones" <JustinJones@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message 
> news:330AE347-FF30-4727-B4F9-618F43CFDB1E@microsoft.com...
> > Solomon Dynamics SL 6.5
> >
> > Two questions.
> >
> > 1).  From reading other posts the Solomon Object model seems to be the

> > best
> > way to get information into the database while keeping the business
rules 
> > and
> > integrity of the database.  I was wondering if you can use any of the
.net
> > programing languages to get this COM object?  And what .dll you would
have 
> > to
> > install and do they come with the Solomon package?
> >
> > 2).  We are planning on using this method to make our own timecard
that
> > employee's would fill out and would be imported through some kind of 
> > process.
> > Currently we are using Business portal to have the employees enter
their
> > time.  If we manage to figure out the Solomon Object model and can
write 
> > our
> > own timecard system we won't have a use for business portal for most
of 
> > our
> > users.  We were wondering if we would need to keep our CAL's for
business
> > portal that we have for each employee in order to use the SOLOMON
OBJECT
> > MODEL.  Or can we get rid of them?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Justin Jones
> >
> > 
> 
> 

Justin

There's a file called siv_ob.pdf which is a developer's guide to the object 
model.
I'm not sure if it gets installed  when you install  Solomon - if not its 
somewhere on the CDs - possibly the second CD.

> We are planning on using this method to make our own timecard that
> employee's would fill out and would be imported through some kind of 
> process.

Tine Entry is not a strong point of mine - but there's a Solomon screen for 
Time Entry.
Have you consudered using that?

> We were wondering if we would need to keep our CAL's for business
> portal that we have for each employee in order to use the SOLOMON OBJECT
> MODEL.

Licensing is not a strong point of mine either.
I'm pretty sure that use of the object model does require a license - 
effectively you are using a Solomon screen, and you need the same licensing 
as if the user was directly operating that screen.
I don't know if that licensre is the same as a Business Portal license.

Perhaps someone who knows a bit more about licensing than me (which 
shouldn't be hard) can comment.

Barry

-- 
Barry Flynn
Complete Solutions DG


"Justin Jones" <JustinJones@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message 
news:330AE347-FF30-4727-B4F9-618F43CFDB1E@microsoft.com...
> Solomon Dynamics SL 6.5
>
> Two questions.
>
> 1).  From reading other posts the Solomon Object model seems to be the 
> best
> way to get information into the database while keeping the business rules 
> and
> integrity of the database.  I was wondering if you can use any of the .net
> programing languages to get this COM object?  And what .dll you would have

> to
> install and do they come with the Solomon package?
>
> 2).  We are planning on using this method to make our own timecard that
> employee's would fill out and would be imported through some kind of 
> process.
> Currently we are using Business portal to have the employees enter their
> time.  If we manage to figure out the Solomon Object model and can write 
> our
> own timecard system we won't have a use for business portal for most of 
> our
> users.  We were wondering if we would need to keep our CAL's for business
> portal that we have for each employee in order to use the SOLOMON OBJECT
> MODEL.  Or can we get rid of them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin Jones
>
> 

On Apr 4, 7:28 am, Justin Jones
<JustinJo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know the answer to the CAL question below?
>
>
>
> "Barry Flynn" wrote:
> > Justin
>
> > There's a file called siv_ob.pdf which is a developer's guide to the
object
> > model.
> > I'm not sure if it gets installed  when you install  Solomon - if not
its
> > somewhere on the CDs - possibly the second CD.
>
> > > We are planning on using this method to make our own timecard
that
> > > employee's would fill out and would be imported through some kind
of
> > > process.
>
> > Tine Entry is not a strong point of mine - but there's a Solomon
screen for
> > Time Entry.
> > Have you consudered using that?
>
> > > We were wondering if we would need to keep our CAL's for
business
> > > portal that we have for each employee in order to use the SOLOMON
OBJECT
> > > MODEL.
>
> > Licensing is not a strong point of mine either.
> > I'm pretty sure that use of the object model does require a license -
> > effectively you are using a Solomon screen, and you need the same
licensing
> > as if the user was directly operating that screen.
> > I don't know if that licensre is the same as a Business Portal
license.
>
> > Perhaps someone who knows a bit more about licensing than me (which
> > shouldn't be hard) can comment.
>
> > Barry
>
> > --
> > Barry Flynn
> > Complete Solutions DG
>
> > "Justin Jones" <JustinJo...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message
> >news:330AE347-FF30-4727-B4F9-618F43CFDB1E@microsoft.com...
> > > Solomon Dynamics SL 6.5
>
> > > Two questions.
>
> > > 1).  From reading other posts the Solomon Object model seems to
be the
> > > best
> > > way to get information into the database while keeping the
business rules
> > > and
> > > integrity of the database.  I was wondering if you can use any of
the .net
> > > programing languages to get this COM object?  And what .dll you
would have
> > > to
> > > install and do they come with the Solomon package?
>
> > > 2).  We are planning on using this method to make our own
timecard that
> > > employee's would fill out and would be imported through some kind
of
> > > process.
> > > Currently we are using Business portal to have the employees
enter their
> > > time.  If we manage to figure out the Solomon Object model and
can write
> > > our
> > > own timecard system we won't have a use for business portal for
most of
> > > our
> > > users.  We were wondering if we would need to keep our CAL's for
business
> > > portal that we have for each employee in order to use the SOLOMON
OBJECT
> > > MODEL.  Or can we get rid of them?
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > Justin Jones- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Justin:

What version of Dynamics SL are you running. The pricing model of
Dynamics has now changed. In the old days you were either a standard
or professional customer. If you were a standard, you had to buy your
BP CALS, if you were a professional customer you were given the same
amount of BP Licenses has you had users. so if you had 5 32-bit user
licenses, you got 5 BP Licenses.

For the object model, you need a license as the object model will
mimic what a user would do on the screen. With the object model you
will actually launch the 32-bit application, log in and then perform
the action(s) you want. So a license will be used for that.

my understanding is that the new pricing model is as follows, a
customer will fall into one of these categories.

1.)	Business Essentials
2.)	Advanced Management.

The al a carte is available only on certain modules, like FRx, and
other modules that are not part of the core accounting application.
Depending on which of the two categories the customer is defined as by
Microsoft, you will get all the modules in that category even if you
don't plan to use them. For more info you should contact yoru
reseller, but this is my understanding of the new pricing model.

Kambiz Ghassemy

Kambiz Ghassemy,

We are running Dynamics SL 6.5.  I'm not sure where we fall under the 
customer ranking. (Standard, or Professional).  I'm not sure I follow all of 
the licensesing you have explained.  When they launch the 32 bit app I assume 
you are referring to the Solomon application.  Do you know how many different 
CAL's there are throughout Solomon??

When they would enter time they would only be using the time and expense 
modules.  So, from what our re-sellers told us is that we would only need the 
Time and expense CAL and wouldn't need the business portal CAL.  I'm just 
trying to confirm this to cover our company.
> Justin:
> 
> What version of Dynamics SL are you running. The pricing model of
> Dynamics has now changed. In the old days you were either a standard
> or professional customer. If you were a standard, you had to buy your
> BP CALS, if you were a professional customer you were given the same
> amount of BP Licenses has you had users. so if you had 5 32-bit user
> licenses, you got 5 BP Licenses.
> 
> For the object model, you need a license as the object model will
> mimic what a user would do on the screen. With the object model you
> will actually launch the 32-bit application, log in and then perform
> the action(s) you want. So a license will be used for that.
> 
> my understanding is that the new pricing model is as follows, a
> customer will fall into one of these categories.
> 
> 1.)	Business Essentials
> 2.)	Advanced Management.
> 
> The al a carte is available only on certain modules, like FRx, and
> other modules that are not part of the core accounting application.
> Depending on which of the two categories the customer is defined as by
> Microsoft, you will get all the modules in that category even if you
> don't plan to use them. For more info you should contact yoru
> reseller, but this is my understanding of the new pricing model.
> 
> Kambiz Ghassemy
> http://www.hitachiconsulting.com