Re: Non delivery reports

AUBREY JACOBUS wrote:
> I have been receiving Non delivery reports for dozens on messages I
> have never sent

That is a very common problem which usually goes away on its own in
time.  Also, it is important that you spamcop report them.

There is a lot of spam in the world.  Spammers (almost) always use bogus
From.  Spammers (almost) always choose to use a From from the same
address lists that they use to spam, so then at any time a spammer can
put your address in the spam From.

Some mail servers are badly configured in their spam handling.  Those
mailservers accept spam for delivery which they can't deliver and so
then they address a newmail nondelivery report to the spam's From.  That
would be you if that's what the spammer put in there.

Those misdirected nondelivery reports are abusive and are spamcop
reportable and defnitely should be reported, because reporting them is
even more likely to correct a problem than is reporting 'normal' spam.

http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/14.html  Messages which may be
reported: -- Misdirected bounces

> I use Btinternet with virus checker and firewall and the Bt spam
> blocker

That isn't important information for this issue.



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Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin

vg4cysss7001 wrote:
> Mike Easter
>> AUBREY JACOBUS wrote:
>>> I have been receiving Non delivery reports for dozens on messages
I
>>> have never sent
>>
>> That is a very common problem which usually goes away on its own in
>> time.  Also, it is important that you spamcop report them.
>
> Thanks for that, assuming it is the "official" line.

I'm not an official, but I know where information in the faq/s can be
found.

>> There is a lot of spam in the world.  Spammers (almost) always use
>> bogus From.
>
> That is what makes "challenge/response" such a pathetic PITA.

If 100% of spam could be eliminated before the mail from an unknown
correspondent were challenged, challenging goodmail would still be a
problem, in my opinion.

>> Spammers (almost) always choose to use a From from the same
>> address lists that they use to spam, so then at any time a spammer
>> can put your address in the spam From.
>
> Or even "dictionaried" left-hand parts :-(

Dictionaried left hand parts plus dictionaried right hand parts = a lot
of CDs with new addresses for sale.


--
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin

I have been receiving Non delivery reports for dozens on messages I have
never sent
I use Btinternet with virus checker and firewall and the Bt spam blocker

Advise please


A J

In article <fu4d49$ead$1@news.spamcop.net>, AUBREY JACOBUS 
<aajacobus@btinternet.com> writes
>I have been receiving Non delivery reports for dozens on messages I have
>never sent
>I use Btinternet with virus checker and firewall and the Bt spam blocker
>
>Advise please

1) Do you have your own domain and do the non-delivery reports suggest a 
"dictionary attack"?

2) Are you receiving "challenge/responses" from Earthlink?

Bounce probably won't work, since the return address may be blank.
Bin them automatically?
Bitch at the sending ISP(s)?

>
>
>A J
>
>

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In article <fu4lee$c0e$1@news.spamcop.net>, Mike Easter 
<MikeE@ster.invalid> writes
>AUBREY JACOBUS wrote:
>> I have been receiving Non delivery reports for dozens on messages I
>> have never sent
>
>That is a very common problem which usually goes away on its own in
>time.  Also, it is important that you spamcop report them.

Thanks for that, assuming it is the "official" line.

>
>There is a lot of spam in the world.  Spammers (almost) always use bogus
>From.

That is what makes "challenge/response" such a pathetic PITA.

>Spammers (almost) always choose to use a From from the same
>address lists that they use to spam, so then at any time a spammer can
>put your address in the spam From.

Or even "dictionaried" left-hand parts :-(

>
[snipped indiscriminately - must go report some spam!]
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