Held mail item 1,000,000

Posting for the sake of posterity, here is my held mail item number
1,000,000.  (Yes, that's one million!)

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From: "Otto Couch" <fantasizesm6@elijahbible.com>
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Subject: Second month you will notice an increase in penis size of up to 1
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There are stories and myths of penis size from around the world.
http://MUNGE

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| Kenneth J. Brody        | www.hvcomputer.com | #include              |
| kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com     |    <std_disclaimer.h> |
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Don't e-mail me at: <mailto:ThisIsASpamTrap@gmail.com>

Yes, I have gotten many of these.  The problem I ran into is that I tried to 
report them to SpamCop and EVERY ONE of them is returned to me, saying, that 
SpamCop "cannot find the spam message" in the letter.
These recent emails (the ones I am getting anyway) are written in such a way 
as to fool the automatic spam checkers (with other random words that do not 
print on the screen but fool the autochecking into thinking it is a normal 
letter.  They do a wonderful job confusing SpamCop's automatic checking 
program, rendering SpamCop totally useless in my opinion.

     Yes, I said every letter is returned.  SpamCop has not accepted even 
one of these blatant and unsolicited emails as spam.
Here is what I mean by random non-printing words:  Here is an actual excerpt 
from just one of those letters, and I am sure you all get them.  Does 
everyone find SpamCop totally useless nowadays?   (I used SpamCop several 
years ago and they actually worked, but at that time they either used real 
people to scan the letters or they used different algorythms.)

Here is the example excerpt:
                    "Began long tell days ways most.
                      Came page that left being following little used after 
miles. To new =
                    man called white thought. Me hear part as.
                      Said feet miles can."

Whereas the header is pretty clear to a human reader,  but you can see that 
the words "pen-is" are meant to be recognized as "penis",
and the "MIME" 
label is only part of what shows that the 'real' message is in the form of a 
graphic, not the random words above.
        Subject: How small is your pen-is? guisselle
        Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:36:41 -0500
        MIME-Version: 1.0
        Content-Type: multipart/related;

Basically I have no choice but to stop using SpamCop altogether until they 
get their act back together, and I don't see a way other than posting here 
to leave them any sort of feedback to explain that they are totally missing 
the boat on a lot of the spam out there.

Thank you.
Sandor 

Father Daniel wrote:
[...]
> Basically I have no choice but to stop using SpamCop altogether until they
> get their act back together, and I don't see a way other than posting here
> to leave them any sort of feedback to explain that they are totally
missing
> the boat on a lot of the spam out there.

If you're having problems with SpamCop, there are numerous ways of
contacting them, including several newsgroups and user forums.  You
can also e-mail them at <deputies-at-spamcop-dot-net>.

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Don't e-mail me at: <mailto:ThisIsASpamTrap@gmail.com>

Father Daniel wrote:
>      Yes, I said every letter is returned.  SpamCop has not accepted even 
> one of these blatant and unsolicited emails as spam.

You don't exhibit much knowledge regarding the workings of spamcop.

posted to spamcop & spamcop.spam, f/ups to spamcop.

Father Daniel wrote:
> Yes, I have gotten many of these.

You are posting to a group which isn't used for discussion, as it is a
group whose original purpose was for posting of spam, which spam posting
isn't allowed in the discussion groups.  Nowadays there are better ways
to post the spam and then to have the discussion in the discussion
group, such as spamcop.

You are replying to a spam example that was posted simply because it was
representative of the OP Kenneth Brody's onemillionth spam.  IMO In my
opinion, it isn't useful to say 'many of these' because 'these' is too
vague.  The item is a spam -- perhaps you mean that you have gotten many
spams.  The item was sourced from a dynamic IP not yet listed as a
proxy, perhaps you mean you have gotten dynamic sourced items;  the item
was a simple 'penis enlargement' spam - perhaps you mean you have
received many of those.

> The problem I ran into is that I
> tried to report them to SpamCop and EVERY ONE of them is returned to
> me, saying, that SpamCop "cannot find the spam message" in the
letter.

That means that you didn't submit the spam correctly and you should
re-read the instructions for spam submission and/or discuss your problem
in the newsgroups or the forum.

> These recent emails (the ones I am getting anyway) are written in
> such a way as to fool the automatic spam checkers (with other random
> words that do not print on the screen but fool the autochecking into
> thinking it is a normal letter.  They do a wonderful job confusing
> SpamCop's automatic checking program, rendering SpamCop totally
> useless in my opinion.

The parser doesn't determine if something is spam.  The parser
determines the source of the item which is properly submitted and if
there is a spamvertised url which resolves.

> Basically I have no choice but to stop using SpamCop altogether until
> they get their act back together, and I don't see a way other than
> posting here to leave them any sort of feedback to explain that they
> are totally missing the boat on a lot of the spam out there.

Here is a suggestion for you to resolve your dilemma.

Reread the SC instructions for how to submit a spam.  Then submit a spam
to the webparser and get its tracking URL and post the tracker in the
discussion group news.spamcop.net/spamcop.

How to make a tracker:

 1 select and obtain the complete spam
 2 privatize the header&body content
 3 webparse it & copy the tracking URL
 4 cancel the report & paste the tracker in here


1  ... in the manner described by the SC faq
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/19.html  How do I get my email
program to reveal the full, unmodified email?

2 ... by modestly and unambiguously mungeing any private information you
don't want to expose, such as your name or email address which might
appear anywhere in the header or body.  Avoid excessive or confusing
mungeing.

3 login to the SC webparser, paste in the spam, and click Process Spam
button;  then copy the tracking URL from the top 'Here is your TRACKING
URL' of the appearance
http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1505491930z5db2559eebcde98291b8e783c95d61cez

4 ... after parsing, the report is 'live' until the cancel button is
used.  After cancelling the tracker disappears;  the munged spam report
should be cancelled because it has been materially changed and because
you don't want to leave a tracker live.


-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin