Re: Browser checks equal frustration.

Hi Dan -

I have found that most of the majorly-obvious differences between 
browsers are caused by a few specific issues

- widths (padding + margin interprets differently... google "css box 
model" for some examples)
- floats/clears
- invalid nesting of tags ( some browsers are more forgiving than 
others)

I go for 'very close' in IE, FF and Opera, and usually check Safari and 
FF-mac via BrowserCam just to make sure nothing is totally out of whack.
Once I started remembering to treat padding/margin with respect and use 
container divs where appropriate for multiple columns, etc, I haven't 
had too many cross-browser issues at all.

-- 
Michael Evangelista
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"D Staehr" <dstaehr@neb.rr.com> wrote in message 
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> Wassup!
>
> I've run captures of some of my sites on browsercam, found errors in 
> various browsers. Now how do I fix them? How do you design for all 
> browsers, or do you check your traffic stats and design for the 
> majority? When you go about fixing the sites to fit, where do you find 
> info about each browser and its idiotcincrazies!!
>
> I've only been at this web biz for 6 years now, learning by trial and 
> error. Last couple of months I've decided to redesign my table based 
> sites using CSS. Fun in that I'm always learning more and more along 
> the way.
>
> Like several of you in the group, this is a second career for me. I 
> worked in broadcasting for over 25 years, got "downsized",
started my 
> own business. Here I am.
>
> Always open for your suggestions, opinions , comments etc.
>
> Dan Staehr
> Staehr Media Services
> Lincoln, NE 

Wassup!

I've run captures of some of my sites on browsercam, found errors in 
various browsers. Now how do I fix them? How do you design for all 
browsers, or do you check your traffic stats and design for the 
majority? When you go about fixing the sites to fit, where do you find 
info about each browser and its idiotcincrazies!!

I've only been at this web biz for 6 years now, learning by trial and 
error. Last couple of months I've decided to redesign my table based 
sites using CSS. Fun in that I'm always learning more and more along the 
way.

Like several of you in the group, this is a second career for me. I 
worked in broadcasting for over 25 years, got "downsized", started my

own business. Here I am.

Always open for your suggestions, opinions , comments etc.

Dan Staehr
Staehr Media Services

> I've run captures of some of my sites on browsercam, found errors in 
> various browsers. Now how do I fix them? 

The same way you would fix your site to work in a browser you have 
installed -- make a change then load the site in the browser (in this 
case, that means back to Browser Cam).

> How do you design for all 
> browsers, or do you check your traffic stats and design for the 
> majority? 

Personally, I design for the major players -- IE 6 & 7, Firefox, and 
Safari.  I also test in Opera, but if it works in IE and FF, then it 
will probably work in Opera.  Because I have the hardware and am 
curious, I'll also be doing some experimenting with BlackBerries on 
future sites.

> When you go about fixing the sites to fit, where do you find 
> info about each browser and its idiotcincrazies!!

Google and 'Position is Everything' 

  http://www.positioniseverything.net/

and newsgroups and forums.  If it's a non-fatal error that doesn't 
affect one of the big players, I generally don't worry about it.

      John