Admitting I'm Lazy :o)

When it comes to putting a web page together I would be in heaven if I had a 
ready made bunch of code that I just needed to tweak by adding references to 
my own stuff. Snippets of pre-authored HTML, along with basic instructions 
on how to personalize it or customize it.

Sometimes I have three or four of these 'pieces' of code in one page, 
putting together an entirely great look from all of the sources. Status bar 
tickers, scroll bar colouring, image placements and/or streaming media 
scripts all make up the page.

Is there anyone else out here who does the same sort of thing? And - is 
there a hidden resource for these things that I don't yet know about? *S* 
Just a wandering thought here as I head off to the office....

Have a good day all,

K.Dee :)

The Lady K.Dee :) said the following on 4/4/2006 10:26 AM:
> When it comes to putting a web page together I would be in heaven if I had
a 
> ready made bunch of code that I just needed to tweak by adding references
to 
> my own stuff. Snippets of pre-authored HTML, along with basic instructions

> on how to personalize it or customize it.
> 
> Sometimes I have three or four of these 'pieces' of code in one page, 
> putting together an entirely great look from all of the sources. Status bar

> tickers, scroll bar colouring, image placements and/or streaming media 
> scripts all make up the page.
> 
> Is there anyone else out here who does the same sort of thing? And - is 
> there a hidden resource for these things that I don't yet know about? *S* 
> Just a wandering thought here as I head off to the office....
> 
> Have a good day all,
> 
> K.Dee :)
> 
> 
I'm a recent lurker, but your question caught my eye.

Place I use:
http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/
            3 main page types which use style sheets. Tweak the layout 
you like and add your own colors, backgrounds, fonts.
After tweaking and customizing, I create a blank_page file that I just 
save with the content needed.


Other places:
http://websitetips.com/css/templates/
http://www.w3.org/StyleSheets/Core/
http://glish.com/css/


I am lazy as well.
I use  server side includes, SSI, in my pages and reuse the same menu 
code chunk and page footer chunks. Each chunk is saved in a .txt file 
but has the proper html code in it.
You use the include command and my server requires the page name end in 
".shtml" instead of ".html" or ".htm".
This is good for the same chunks across a site, but if you have too many 
per page, it can slow your whole page down.
Site visitors who snoop code will see the code as it's sent to their 
browser. no include statements since the stuff is already included.

SSI links:
http://bignosebird.com/ssi.shtml
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/save-hours-ssis
http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/tutorials/includes.html
http://siliconguide.com/dev/ssi/1.shtml
http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/ssiprimer.shtml     (shows the 
actual include statement)
http://http-server.carleton.ca/~dmcfet/html/ssi1.html
http://www.tdscripts.com/ssi.html


I also save useful code segments I created in the past. Handy when I 
want one of them to just paste into my current page.

Thanks for all of this great information, Monica! And of course, welcome to 
the Arts.Web.Design group :o) It's great to have you here, sharing and not 
lurking!

Bluerobot was one of the sites I cruised to when I was reading articles at A 
List Apart. Very simple and clean lines, and a good resource for clean CSS 
templates.

I've checked out a few of your links on SSI, and will admit that although I 
do understand the concept, it's a bit tougher getting my brain to see how it 
would work with the ideas I have floating about in there. I'll have to check 
and see my hosting partner has this feature and if it does I'll set aside an 
area to play and experiment a little.

I have several small text files with code that I copy and paste into pages 
as well. I just want more <G>.

Again - thanks for sharing this information - and I am looking forward to 
seeing more of you when things permits and the conversations catch your eye!

K.Dee :)

"MWallek" <monica@wallek.com> wrote in message 
news:X4mJkhAWGHA.4604@GAMERA.annex.com...
The Lady K.Dee :) said the following on 4/4/2006 10:26 AM:
> When it comes to putting a web page together I would be in heaven if I had

> a
> ready made bunch of code that I just needed to tweak by adding references 
> to
> my own stuff. Snippets of pre-authored HTML, along with basic instructions
> on how to personalize it or customize it.
>
> Sometimes I have three or four of these 'pieces' of code in one page,
> putting together an entirely great look from all of the sources. Status 
> bar
> tickers, scroll bar colouring, image placements and/or streaming media
> scripts all make up the page.
>
> Is there anyone else out here who does the same sort of thing? And - is
> there a hidden resource for these things that I don't yet know about? *S*
> Just a wandering thought here as I head off to the office....
>
> Have a good day all,
>
> K.Dee :)
>
>
I'm a recent lurker, but your question caught my eye.

Place I use:
http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/
            3 main page types which use style sheets. Tweak the layout
you like and add your own colors, backgrounds, fonts.
After tweaking and customizing, I create a blank_page file that I just
save with the content needed.


Other places:
http://websitetips.com/css/templates/
http://www.w3.org/StyleSheets/Core/
http://glish.com/css/


I am lazy as well.
I use  server side includes, SSI, in my pages and reuse the same menu
code chunk and page footer chunks. Each chunk is saved in a .txt file
but has the proper html code in it.
You use the include command and my server requires the page name end in
".shtml" instead of ".html" or ".htm".
This is good for the same chunks across a site, but if you have too many
per page, it can slow your whole page down.
Site visitors who snoop code will see the code as it's sent to their
browser. no include statements since the stuff is already included.

SSI links:
http://bignosebird.com/ssi.shtml
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/save-hours-ssis
http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/tutorials/includes.html
http://siliconguide.com/dev/ssi/1.shtml
http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/ssiprimer.shtml     (shows the
actual include statement)
http://http-server.carleton.ca/~dmcfet/html/ssi1.html
http://www.tdscripts.com/ssi.html


I also save useful code segments I created in the past. Handy when I
want one of them to just paste into my current page.

MonicaW 

;)

For a new page, I open my blank template, resave it under the new name 
for the page.
Template has 2 include commands. One where my navigation menu will 
appear and the other where the page footer stuff is- copyright and an 
additional email link. The includes will not function properly until I 
upload the pages to my site. At that point, page is complete on being 
served to any web browser.
To add a link to the menu, change one line of code in my menu.txt file 
and back to fun stuff. Vast improvement over editing every page with 
batch find and replace.

I'll drop in when I can.
MonicaW

The Lady K.Dee :) said the following on 4/5/2006 8:42 AM:
> Thanks for all of this great information, Monica! And of course, welcome to

> the Arts.Web.Design group :o) It's great to have you here, sharing and not

> lurking!
> 
> Bluerobot was one of the sites I cruised to when I was reading articles at
A 
> List Apart. Very simple and clean lines, and a good resource for clean CSS

> templates.
> 
> I've checked out a few of your links on SSI, and will admit that although I

> do understand the concept, it's a bit tougher getting my brain to see how
it 
> would work with the ideas I have floating about in there. I'll have to
check 
> and see my hosting partner has this feature and if it does I'll set aside
an 
> area to play and experiment a little.
> 
> I have several small text files with code that I copy and paste into pages

> as well. I just want more <G>.
> 
> Again - thanks for sharing this information - and I am looking forward to 
> seeing more of you when things permits and the conversations catch your
eye!
> 
> K.Dee :)
> 
> "MWallek" <monica@wallek.com> wrote in message 
> news:X4mJkhAWGHA.4604@GAMERA.annex.com...
> The Lady K.Dee :) said the following on 4/4/2006 10:26 AM:
>> When it comes to putting a web page together I would be in heaven if I
had 
>> a
>> ready made bunch of code that I just needed to tweak by adding
references 
>> to
>> my own stuff. Snippets of pre-authored HTML, along with basic
instructions
>> on how to personalize it or customize it.
>>
>> Sometimes I have three or four of these 'pieces' of code in one page,
>> putting together an entirely great look from all of the sources. Status

>> bar
>> tickers, scroll bar colouring, image placements and/or streaming media
>> scripts all make up the page.
>>
>> Is there anyone else out here who does the same sort of thing? And -
is
>> there a hidden resource for these things that I don't yet know about?
*S*
>> Just a wandering thought here as I head off to the office....
>>
>> Have a good day all,
>>
>> K.Dee :)
>>
>>
> I'm a recent lurker, but your question caught my eye.
> 
> Place I use:
> http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/
>             3 main page types which use style sheets. Tweak the layout
> you like and add your own colors, backgrounds, fonts.
> After tweaking and customizing, I create a blank_page file that I just
> save with the content needed.
> 
> 
> Other places:
> http://websitetips.com/css/templates/
> http://www.w3.org/StyleSheets/Core/
> http://glish.com/css/
> 
> 
> I am lazy as well.
> I use  server side includes, SSI, in my pages and reuse the same menu
> code chunk and page footer chunks. Each chunk is saved in a .txt file
> but has the proper html code in it.
> You use the include command and my server requires the page name end in
> ".shtml" instead of ".html" or ".htm".
> This is good for the same chunks across a site, but if you have too many
> per page, it can slow your whole page down.
> Site visitors who snoop code will see the code as it's sent to their
> browser. no include statements since the stuff is already included.
> 
> SSI links:
> http://bignosebird.com/ssi.shtml
> http://www.sitepoint.com/article/save-hours-ssis
> http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/tutorials/includes.html
> http://siliconguide.com/dev/ssi/1.shtml
> http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/ssiprimer.shtml     (shows the
> actual include statement)
> http://http-server.carleton.ca/~dmcfet/html/ssi1.html
> http://www.tdscripts.com/ssi.html
> 
> 
> I also save useful code segments I created in the past. Handy when I
> want one of them to just paste into my current page.
> 
> MonicaW 
> 

Hi all,

Having just 'popped in' as a result of Lady K's kind invitation regarding a 
"Web Logging" question I raised  . . . .

I use Dreamweaver full time for home web design but FrontPage at work for my 
company web designing.  Both provide sample templates for web pages 
(Dreamweaver is very complex - a la the Post thread "What web design 
program?" - but is the more comprehensive and future proof (inmho) as,for 
example, CSS style sheets are going to be 'required use' in a few years time 
and FrontPage (like most Microsoft product wants to do it's own thing!). 
Like Aziz, I'd always recommend Dreamweaver but it is very expensive (you do 
get your money's worth if you do a lot of web design or page tweaking but 
the price is beyond the reach of most folks!)

From experience of use of most WYSIWYG HTML Editors they pretty much all 
provide you some blank web page templates to get you started or give you an 
idea of some different layouts. Dreamweaver give you loads to choose from.

Hope this helps.

Bearz
See into the Bearz Cave
http://www.bearzcave.com


"MWallek" <monica@wallek.com> wrote in message 
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The Lady K.Dee :) said the following on 4/4/2006 10:26 AM:
> When it comes to putting a web page together I would be in heaven if I had

> a
> ready made bunch of code that I just needed to tweak by adding references 
> to
> my own stuff. Snippets of pre-authored HTML, along with basic instructions
> on how to personalize it or customize it.
>
> Sometimes I have three or four of these 'pieces' of code in one page,
> putting together an entirely great look from all of the sources. Status 
> bar
> tickers, scroll bar colouring, image placements and/or streaming media
> scripts all make up the page.
>
> Is there anyone else out here who does the same sort of thing? And - is
> there a hidden resource for these things that I don't yet know about? *S*
> Just a wandering thought here as I head off to the office....
>
> Have a good day all,
>
> K.Dee :)
>
>
I'm a recent lurker, but your question caught my eye.

Place I use:
http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/
            3 main page types which use style sheets. Tweak the layout
you like and add your own colors, backgrounds, fonts.
After tweaking and customizing, I create a blank_page file that I just
save with the content needed.


Other places:
http://websitetips.com/css/templates/
http://www.w3.org/StyleSheets/Core/
http://glish.com/css/


I am lazy as well.
I use  server side includes, SSI, in my pages and reuse the same menu
code chunk and page footer chunks. Each chunk is saved in a .txt file
but has the proper html code in it.
You use the include command and my server requires the page name end in
".shtml" instead of ".html" or ".htm".
This is good for the same chunks across a site, but if you have too many
per page, it can slow your whole page down.
Site visitors who snoop code will see the code as it's sent to their
browser. no include statements since the stuff is already included.

SSI links:
http://bignosebird.com/ssi.shtml
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/save-hours-ssis
http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/tutorials/includes.html
http://siliconguide.com/dev/ssi/1.shtml
http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/ssiprimer.shtml     (shows the
actual include statement)
http://http-server.carleton.ca/~dmcfet/html/ssi1.html
http://www.tdscripts.com/ssi.html


I also save useful code segments I created in the past. Handy when I
want one of them to just paste into my current page.

MonicaW