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Strategy for maintaing symbol servers

Strategy for maintaing symbol servers
Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:21:31 -0700
What are the recommended procedures and strategies for maintaining symbol 
servers and symbol proxy servers?
E.g. backup, archiving, deleting logs, etc.

E.g. the 000Admin directory fills up with transaction logs that are probably 
never going to be used, any harm in deleting them, other than not being able 
to reset server shares for pointers?

Regards
P. 
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RE: Strategy for maintaing symbol servers
Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:47:19 GMT
Hi,

"John Robbins" shares some best practise regarding symbol server and
source 
symbol in "Install the Operating System Symbols and Set Up a Symbol
Store" 
chapter of his book "Debugging Applications for Microsoft .NET and 
Microsoft Windows", you may give it a look. 

Regarding your question, I will consult the windbg team and get some 
information from them to share with you. I will get back to you ASAP. 
Thanks.

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RE: Strategy for maintaing symbol servers
Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:53:39 GMT
Additionally, if you wanted to trim the symbol server for unused files, you 
may take a look at the AgeStore which can be used to remove old entries in 
the downstream store used by a symbol server or a source server. For 
details, please refer to our windbg developer "Pat Styles"'s reply in
the 
link below:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windbg/browse_thread/thread/
48a210da51142f98/c4703b4f5f10960f

Hope it helps.

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Re: Strategy for maintaing symbol servers
Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:54:36 -0700
Hi Jeffrey

Thank you for the reply, and I look forward to hearing what Pat and others 
have to say.
To give you some background, we are generating about 2GB worth of logs in 
the 000Admin folder per month, and this is eating tons of space on expensive 
storage.

Regards
P.

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> Hi,
>
> "John Robbins" shares some best practise regarding symbol server
and 
> source
> symbol in "Install the Operating System Symbols and Set Up a Symbol
Store"
> chapter of his book "Debugging Applications for Microsoft .NET and
> Microsoft Windows", you may give it a look.
>
> Regarding your question, I will consult the windbg team and get some
> information from them to share with you. I will get back to you ASAP.
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards,
> Jeffrey Tan
> Microsoft Online Community Support
>
> Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and
> suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please
> feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
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Re: Strategy for maintaing symbol servers
Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:45:18 GMT
Hi,

Thanks for your feedback.

Pat is actually on vacation these days. However, I still get response from 
him, he is really a nice guy :-)

We believe the 000Admin directory's size should be trivial compared to the 
actual contents of the store. Is it true on your symbol server? 

That said, eliminating the logs makes it so that symstore is no longer able 
to delete old transactions from the store.  If this is what you want, then 
you can use agestore.exe to manage the store even though it does not use 
business logic like symstore does.

As far as backup and the like, we believe you are in a better position to 
know how to manage your own bits.  You have a better understanding of how 
your network is laid out, how much bits there are, the source of the 
symbols, etc.

Hope it helps.

Best regards,
Jeffrey Tan
Microsoft Online Community Support
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