Re: Paste Simple: undocumented feature?

The definition based on the macro command's documentation:
Paste the Clipboard contents without text attributes (unless beginning 
and ending attribute codes are included in the pasted selection).

I was adding some variations on Paste as toolbar icons and came across 
the option for Edit, Paste Simple in the toolbar editing dialogue. I 
added the icon, and it appears to provide a very useful functionality 
that apparently isn't available through any of the Paste options 
accessible through the normal menu process.

It seems to paste data matching the destination formatting, or some of 
it (I haven't tested too many formatting options), and at least the 
destination active font. It pastes hyperlinks, bookmarks, TOC and Index 
markings, and probably more. It doesn't bring in all the nasties that 
Paste Rich Text adds.

There's no reference to Paste Simple in the Help file, and the term 
always meant to me the same thing as Paste Unformatted or Paste Text, 
but that's not how it's functioning here. And since it's not accessible 
through the menu, and the icon is not similar to the other paste 
options, I wonder if it wasn't intended to be used, and if there's a 
reason I shouldn't use it?

I also wonder just what Paste Simple does and doesn't do. Nice feature, 
it seems to me.

David

 From one of my tips pages here: http://wptoolbox.com/tips/PSpecial.html

[QUOTE]
Paste as Unformatted Text is different from the old (now undocumented) 
command, Paste Simple. As John Burness said in a WP user group:

     > Doesn't Ctrl+Shft+V paste unformatted text without the need to 
[create] a macro??

     Yes, but.

     There is good news and bad news. Paste Simple (Ctrl+Shft+V) does 
let the text come in to the doc "in the font style and size, text color, 
and any attributes (such as bold or italics) of the text at the 
insertion point." If used on a blank line in the document, "the text 
appears in the default font style, color, and size." Unfortunately, 
Paste Simple (Ctrl+Shft+V) also brings any associated styles with the 
text, a potential problem if pasting a mail program such as Eudora, as 
well as some unexpected formatting.

     I receive a fair amount of interview material or research through 
email which I then cut and paste into a WP doc. Eudora sends along 
styles called 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, plus HTML Address, HTML Blockquote, HTML 
Cite, HTML Code, and so on. Even worse, Paste Simple brings in any 
margin settings, tab settings, hidden codes like the email subject line, 
and some other garbage that get in the way of the plain text. Having the 
margins change unexpectedly is irritating even with Reveal Codes in WP.

     The Edit > Paste > Special > Unformatted Text command does away 
with all the formatting garbage, leaving just the text. . . .

[/QUOTE]

P.S. The above linked page also describes some issues with Edit > Paste 
Special > Unformatted text that you might want to be aware of.

Barry

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d381e wrote:
> 
> Thanks both for the responses. I've used Edit, Paste Special, and I've 
> always kept an icon for Unformatted text, since I use it constantly. But 
> Paste Simple isn't among the Paste Special options, and I don't 
> understand why it isn't there with all the others, since it serves a 
> different purpose than any of the ones listed. I was glad to find it, 
> anyway. I'll use the keystroke shortcut you provided, too, though the 
> icon will usually be the first choice since I'll normally have been 
> using the mouse to select text to copy and the destination location.
> 
> David
> 
> Charles Rossiter wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> Shift+Ctrl+V is the shortcut keystroke for Paste Simple.  You can also

>> do Edit, Paste Special, Unformatted text -- which gives a wider range 
>> of Paste options.
>>
>> Very useful.
>>
>>
>> d381e wrote:
>>>
>>> I was adding some variations on Paste as toolbar icons and came 
>>> across the option for Edit, Paste Simple in the toolbar editing 
>>> dialogue. I added the icon, and it appears to provide a very useful

>>> functionality that apparently isn't available through any of the 
>>> Paste options accessible through the normal menu process.
>>>
>>> It seems to paste data matching the destination formatting, or some

>>> of it (I haven't tested too many formatting options), and at least

>>> the destination active font. It pastes hyperlinks, bookmarks, TOC
and 
>>> Index markings, and probably more. It doesn't bring in all the 
>>> nasties that Paste Rich Text adds.
>>>
>>> There's no reference to Paste Simple in the Help file, and the term

>>> always meant to me the same thing as Paste Unformatted or Paste
Text, 
>>> but that's not how it's functioning here. And since it's not 
>>> accessible through the menu, and the icon is not similar to the
other 
>>> paste options, I wonder if it wasn't intended to be used, and if 
>>> there's a reason I shouldn't use it?
>>>
>>> I also wonder just what Paste Simple does and doesn't do. Nice 
>>> feature, it seems to me.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>
> 

David,

Shift+Ctrl+V is the shortcut keystroke for Paste Simple.  You can also 
do Edit, Paste Special, Unformatted text -- which gives a wider range of 
Paste options.

Very useful.


d381e wrote:
> 
> I was adding some variations on Paste as toolbar icons and came across 
> the option for Edit, Paste Simple in the toolbar editing dialogue. I 
> added the icon, and it appears to provide a very useful functionality 
> that apparently isn't available through any of the Paste options 
> accessible through the normal menu process.
> 
> It seems to paste data matching the destination formatting, or some of 
> it (I haven't tested too many formatting options), and at least the 
> destination active font. It pastes hyperlinks, bookmarks, TOC and Index 
> markings, and probably more. It doesn't bring in all the nasties that 
> Paste Rich Text adds.
> 
> There's no reference to Paste Simple in the Help file, and the term 
> always meant to me the same thing as Paste Unformatted or Paste Text, 
> but that's not how it's functioning here. And since it's not accessible 
> through the menu, and the icon is not similar to the other paste 
> options, I wonder if it wasn't intended to be used, and if there's a 
> reason I shouldn't use it?
> 
> I also wonder just what Paste Simple does and doesn't do. Nice feature, 
> it seems to me.
> 
> David
> 

-- 
  Charles Rossiter
  Volunteer C_Tech
{Please respond to
  news groups only}

Thanks both for the responses. I've used Edit, Paste Special, and I've 
always kept an icon for Unformatted text, since I use it constantly. But 
Paste Simple isn't among the Paste Special options, and I don't 
understand why it isn't there with all the others, since it serves a 
different purpose than any of the ones listed. I was glad to find it, 
anyway. I'll use the keystroke shortcut you provided, too, though the 
icon will usually be the first choice since I'll normally have been 
using the mouse to select text to copy and the destination location.

David

Charles Rossiter wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> Shift+Ctrl+V is the shortcut keystroke for Paste Simple.  You can also 
> do Edit, Paste Special, Unformatted text -- which gives a wider range of 
> Paste options.
> 
> Very useful.
> 
> 
> d381e wrote:
>>
>> I was adding some variations on Paste as toolbar icons and came across

>> the option for Edit, Paste Simple in the toolbar editing dialogue. I 
>> added the icon, and it appears to provide a very useful functionality 
>> that apparently isn't available through any of the Paste options 
>> accessible through the normal menu process.
>>
>> It seems to paste data matching the destination formatting, or some of

>> it (I haven't tested too many formatting options), and at least the 
>> destination active font. It pastes hyperlinks, bookmarks, TOC and 
>> Index markings, and probably more. It doesn't bring in all the nasties

>> that Paste Rich Text adds.
>>
>> There's no reference to Paste Simple in the Help file, and the term 
>> always meant to me the same thing as Paste Unformatted or Paste Text, 
>> but that's not how it's functioning here. And since it's not 
>> accessible through the menu, and the icon is not similar to the other 
>> paste options, I wonder if it wasn't intended to be used, and if 
>> there's a reason I shouldn't use it?
>>
>> I also wonder just what Paste Simple does and doesn't do. Nice 
>> feature, it seems to me.
>>
>> David
>>
>