XP Application Installed and Ran OK on Vista?

I'm running Vista with Plus 2.6.1.3.
I have been creating separate installations using INNO for XP and Vista...XP 
without the manifest files.
A customer bought a new computer with Vista.
I thought he had XP on it so I had him install the XP version.
Surprisingly, it installed and ran just fine.

This makes me curious.
Under what circumstances will an application run on Vista without manifest 
files?
Since I compiled the app using a computer with Vista, does the Plus Runtime 
inherit the manifest files when the app is installed?

Ted

In article <AwqF3$VeIHA.1872@news-server>, tedfanderson@gmail.com 
says...
> I'm running Vista with Plus 2.6.1.3.
> I have been creating separate installations using INNO for XP and
Vista...XP 
> without the manifest files.
> A customer bought a new computer with Vista.
> I thought he had XP on it so I had him install the XP version.
> Surprisingly, it installed and ran just fine.
Conversely, I've had no problems with deploying the new manifest files 
to XP machines.  Way less work than having separate installs.  It may 
come back to bite me but so far so good.

> Since I compiled the app using a computer with Vista, does the Plus Runtime

> inherit the manifest files when the app is installed?
No, nothing is automatic.  If you don't include the manifest files in 
your deploy routine they are not created.



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In article <AwqF3$VeIHA.1872@news-server>, tedfanderson@gmail.com 
says...
> I'm running Vista with Plus 2.6.1.3.
> I have been creating separate installations using INNO for XP and
Vista...XP 
> without the manifest files.
> A customer bought a new computer with Vista.
> I thought he had XP on it so I had him install the XP version.
> Surprisingly, it installed and ran just fine.
> 
> This makes me curious.
> Under what circumstances will an application run on Vista without manifest

> files?
> Since I compiled the app using a computer with Vista, does the Plus Runtime

> inherit the manifest files when the app is installed?
> 
> Ted


Ted,

I /think/ (I don't have Vista) that if you install without a manifest 
file and it works, it likely means the user has turned off some security 
like the User Account Control (UAC). You can't rely on all users to do 
that. As well, without the manifest files I am not sure whether your 
program will pickup Windows Themes.

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Montréal, Québec, Canada

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Hi Paul,

The Vista compatibility notes on the dBase site make the following 
statement:
"Vista Manifest files are not compatible with XP operating systems."

I took that to mean the XP system would not allow manifest files.
If XP just ignores them then that would make life a lot easier.

Thanks for the info.

Ted

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> In article <AwqF3$VeIHA.1872@news-server>, tedfanderson@gmail.com
> says...
>> I'm running Vista with Plus 2.6.1.3.
>> I have been creating separate installations using INNO for XP and 
>> Vista...XP
>> without the manifest files.
>> A customer bought a new computer with Vista.
>> I thought he had XP on it so I had him install the XP version.
>> Surprisingly, it installed and ran just fine.
> Conversely, I've had no problems with deploying the new manifest files
> to XP machines.  Way less work than having separate installs.  It may
> come back to bite me but so far so good.
>
>> Since I compiled the app using a computer with Vista, does the Plus 
>> Runtime
>> inherit the manifest files when the app is installed?
> No, nothing is automatic.  If you don't include the manifest files in
> your deploy routine they are not created.
>
>
>
> -- 
> Paul Van House
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Hi Geoff,

Paul Van House says he has been including the manifest files in the XP 
installations without any problems. I guess XP just ignores those files.
This will make deployment much easier.

One of the postings seems to state that there needs to be a 
PlusRuntime.exe.manifest and also a <application>.exe.manifest in the same

folder as the <application>.exe.
On another posting someone said that the PlusRuntime is a wrapper that holds 
the <application> so that there is no need to include the 
<application>.exe.manifest file.

Do you know which is correct?

Thanks for the help,
Ted

"Geoff Wass [dBVIPS]" <gswassREMOVE_ME@attglobal.net> wrote in
message 
news:MPG.222ffd88df607d44989f60@news.dbase.com...
> In article <AwqF3$VeIHA.1872@news-server>, tedfanderson@gmail.com
> says...
>> I'm running Vista with Plus 2.6.1.3.
>> I have been creating separate installations using INNO for XP and 
>> Vista...XP
>> without the manifest files.
>> A customer bought a new computer with Vista.
>> I thought he had XP on it so I had him install the XP version.
>> Surprisingly, it installed and ran just fine.
>>
>> This makes me curious.
>> Under what circumstances will an application run on Vista without 
>> manifest
>> files?
>> Since I compiled the app using a computer with Vista, does the Plus 
>> Runtime
>> inherit the manifest files when the app is installed?
>>
>> Ted
>
>
> Ted,
>
> I /think/ (I don't have Vista) that if you install without a manifest
> file and it works, it likely means the user has turned off some security
> like the User Account Control (UAC). You can't rely on all users to do
> that. As well, without the manifest files I am not sure whether your
> program will pickup Windows Themes.
>
> -- 
> Geoff Wass [dBVIPS]
> Montréal, Québec, Canada
>
> .|.|.|        dBASE info at http://geocities.com/geoff_wass       |.|.|.
> .|.|.| ---------------------------------------------------------- |.|.|.
> .|.|.|             IT Consultant http://Geoff_Wass.com            |.|.|.