Weird happenings

Over the last few days I've encountered some weird happenings on my eCS 
2.0RC1 system:

1. xWorkPlace xCenter does not always display when I move the pointer to 
the edge of the screen, even though at least one -- and sometimes two -- 
instances of xCenter are visible in the Window List. Right-clicking on 
one of those instances then selecting Show usually makes it work again. 
At the moment the xCenter is working fine even though no instance of it 
shows in the Window List.

2. I've sometimes seen the Desktop restart of its own accord -- but not 
while I was using the computer.

Not long ago I installed WPS Wizard. Could that be a factor?

-=-

Alan Beagley wrote:
> Over the last few days I've encountered some weird happenings on my eCS 
> 2.0RC1 system:
> 
> 1. xWorkPlace xCenter does not always display when I move the pointer to 
> the edge of the screen, even though at least one -- and sometimes two -- 
> instances of xCenter are visible in the Window List. Right-clicking on 
> one of those instances then selecting Show usually makes it work again. 
> At the moment the xCenter is working fine even though no instance of it 
> shows in the Window List.
> 
> 2. I've sometimes seen the Desktop restart of its own accord -- but not 
> while I was using the computer.
> 
> Not long ago I installed WPS Wizard. Could that be a factor?
> 
> -=-

Alan, I am not seeing this.  Why don't you uninstall wps wizard and see 
if this changes things.

CW wrote:
> Alan Beagley wrote:

>> Not long ago I installed WPS Wizard. Could that be a factor?
> 
> Everything can be a factor. Maybe the position of the moon on last 
> christmas is the cause of the problem, the size of my car, the color of 
> the shirt I'm currently wearing or whatever else...
> 
> 
> Sigh, I'm soooo tired of this.
> 
> Years ago XWorkplace was the new kid on the block. *Every* misbehaviour 
> of OS/2 was blamed on it and people pissed at the author.
> 
> Then the CW multimedia classes came out and in the following *every* 
> hickup was blamed on them. No matter if it was a WPS problem, a graphics 
> problem or a network problem.
> 
> Now the CW multimedia classes are dead but a new release of WPS-wizard 
> is out. Because some people had problem with it now *every* problem is 
> blamed on that package no matter if it's WPS related or not.

Personally, I have used the CW multimedia classes for years on different 
computers and never have had a problem.  I hate to hear this.  If you 
ever have a personal version later than what will ever be released, I 
would like to try it with the promise that I won't circulate it.

> 
> People please start investigating a problem instead of shooting into the 
> dark. If there is a problem with package <insert name> file a
*useful* 
> bug report and the problem will be taken care of.

This is what people fail to do and I have been guilty of this myself in 
the past.  It seems lately that it is getting worse.  This problem is 
not happening only to your program.  People report they have a problem, 
but don't give any details such as operating system, WPS enhancers 
installed, detailed descriptions, etc.  Another thing that amazes me is 
that they don't make archives like they should.  With any WPS enhancer 
install, I also make an archive.  This has saved my butt many a time 
after I installed eSchemes and my system started becoming unstable.

> 
> Note that filing a bug report in the WPS-Wizard bugtracker *will not* 
> help fixing bugs in XWorkplace, eCS, eSchemes, <insert any random 
> application>. I'm not the author of these applications, I don't have the

> source and I won't debug them for you.

I think one of the problems is that people use so many WPS enhancers.  I 
use basically what eComStation provides with the exception that right 
now, I am not using XWP until a new release comes out due to the ACPI 
shutdown problem the present version has.

Most people like myself assumed that eCS betas would have the latest 
Cairo. Being a process operator, I ought to know better than assume 
anything.  ex. eCS betas up to RC4 were being distributed with an early 
version of Cairo (v1.24).

I have WPS Wizard now installed on two eCS betas RC2 and RC4 and it 
works great.  I see no degredation of the operating system at all.  As I 
mentioned in earlier posts to Chris, I am now hooked.  So hooked that I 
have switched my icon theme making from ithemes to WPS Wizard themes.

Thank you for your multimedia classes and WPS Wizard!!!

David


>   Regards Chris
> 

Alan Beagley wrote:
> Over the last few days I've encountered some weird happenings on my eCS 
> 2.0RC1 system:
> 
> 1. xWorkPlace xCenter does not always display when I move the pointer to 
> the edge of the screen, even though at least one -- and sometimes two -- 
> instances of xCenter are visible in the Window List. Right-clicking on 
> one of those instances then selecting Show usually makes it work again. 
> At the moment the xCenter is working fine even though no instance of it 
> shows in the Window List.
> 
> 2. I've sometimes seen the Desktop restart of its own accord -- but not 
> while I was using the computer.
> 
> Not long ago I installed WPS Wizard. Could that be a factor?
> 
> -=-
> Alan


You aren't using eSchemes are you?  The WPS restart is a problem I have 
seen in the past with it.  It always seems to happen when I opened the 
templates folder.  This is on numerous versions of eSchemes I have 
tried.  I don't know about eCenter/Xcenter since I have it always set to 
stay visible on my systems.

Secondly, if you are using eSchemes, it is a now a known fact that both 
presently can't co-exist together.

Alan Beagley wrote:

> Over the last few days I've encountered some weird happenings on my eCS 
> 2.0RC1 system:

> 1. xWorkPlace xCenter does not always display when I move the pointer to 
> the edge of the screen, even though at least one -- and sometimes two -- 
> instances of xCenter are visible in the Window List. Right-clicking on 
> one of those instances then selecting Show usually makes it work again. 
> At the moment the xCenter is working fine even though no instance of it 
> shows in the Window List.

> 2. I've sometimes seen the Desktop restart of its own accord -- but not 
> while I was using the computer.

> Not long ago I installed WPS Wizard. Could that be a factor?

Everything can be a factor. Maybe the position of the moon on last 
christmas is the cause of the problem, the size of my car, the color of 
the shirt I'm currently wearing or whatever else...


Sigh, I'm soooo tired of this.

Years ago XWorkplace was the new kid on the block. *Every* misbehaviour of 
OS/2 was blamed on it and people pissed at the author.

Then the CW multimedia classes came out and in the following *every* 
hickup was blamed on them. No matter if it was a WPS problem, a graphics 
problem or a network problem.

Now the CW multimedia classes are dead but a new release of WPS-wizard is 
out. Because some people had problem with it now *every* problem is blamed 
on that package no matter if it's WPS related or not.

People please start investigating a problem instead of shooting into the 
dark. If there is a problem with package <insert name> file a *useful* bug

report and the problem will be taken care of.

Note that filing a bug report in the WPS-Wizard bugtracker *will not* help 
fixing bugs in XWorkplace, eCS, eSchemes, <insert any random application>.

I'm not the author of these applications, I don't have the source and I 
won't debug them for you.

/rant


   Regards Chris