New Motherboard

It looks as if my Mobo has died in one of my servers. So what are folks using
these days to run eCS. I need a new compatiable Mobo that  .... 

My major requirement is that it have at least 3 and better yet 4 PCI Slots. 
Onboard serial/parallel ports, can be via mobo header. 2 serial ports would
be ideal. 
On board 100M Lan Support

Supported on-board video would nice, or if not, what Inexpensive Video Cards
are available. 

As this is a server system that just sits and provides network services. 

Don't need fancy or even fast graphics card
Don't care about sound. 


Cheers, 









Eric Erickson
Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.        	- Internet:  drowelf@vnetAntiSpam.net
Already where I want to be Today	 - Voice/Fax: (218)-398-2625

Hi Eric

Eric Erickson wrote:
> It looks as if my Mobo has died in one of my servers. So what are folks
using
> these days to run eCS. I need a new compatiable Mobo that  .... 
> 
> My major requirement is that it have at least 3 and better yet 4 PCI Slots.

> Onboard serial/parallel ports, can be via mobo header. 2 serial ports
would
> be ideal. 
> On board 100M Lan Support
> 
> Supported on-board video would nice, or if not, what Inexpensive Video
Cards
> are available. 
> 
> As this is a server system that just sits and provides network services. 
> 
> Don't need fancy or even fast graphics card
> Don't care about sound. 
> 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Erickson
> Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.        	- Internet: 
drowelf@vnetAntiSpam.net
> Already where I want to be Today	 - Voice/Fax: (218)-398-2625
> 
> 


I think I've been fairly happy with Asus mainboards recently, currently 
using an M2N mainboard which comes in several variations including some 
with onboard video - these are AMD AM2 CPU socket mainboards

http://uk.asus.com/search.aspx?searchitem=1&searchkey=m2n


If you decide to go for a separate video card check ebay for PCIe cards 
in the ATI X300 through X850 range - mainly because they are supported 
by SNAP. I picked up a "hardly used" PCIe X700 128Mb for £10 (UK
Pounds) 
inc Post recently which works well on an Asus A8N-E mainboard using the 
SNAP driver.

I gather the Panorama driver works with some later cards so you may want 
to check out what exactly that supports as well - presuming you have a 
current Software Subscription.

Regards

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:25:21 UTC, Peter Brown 
<losepeteSPAM-ME-NOT@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>  
> I think I've been fairly happy with Asus mainboards recently, currently 
> using an M2N mainboard which comes in several variations including some 
> with onboard video - these are AMD AM2 CPU socket mainboards
>  
> http://uk.asus.com/search.aspx?searchitem=1&searchkey=m2n
>  
>  
> If you decide to go for a separate video card check ebay for PCIe cards 
> in the ATI X300 through X850 range - mainly because they are supported 
> by SNAP. I picked up a "hardly used" PCIe X700 128Mb for £10 (UK
Pounds) 
> inc Post recently which works well on an Asus A8N-E mainboard using the 
> SNAP driver.
>  
> I gather the Panorama driver works with some later cards so you may want 
> to check out what exactly that supports as well - presuming you have a 
> current Software Subscription.

Funny you should mention this, because I just bought a system with an 
M2N-E and Cool Graphics (HIS with Radeon 1650 chipset, PCI-E) running 
under 1.2MR, and have two nasty problems, graphics-related, one *not* 
dependent on the zowie graphics board. I'm curious whether other people 
have run into this, or have a fix for the worse problem.

First, it wouldn't run a DOS window in the WPS. Yes, I need to do that. It
shows a blank window, no text in it, a cursor, but no input of any kind 
accepted. Win-16 window also fails, more unpleasantly. Funny thing: each 
appears to be just fine in full-screen mode.

This one I can fix by switching to an old ATI Radeon PCI board. Under the 
installed Panorama driver it does these things just fine, though in 1280 
resolution since the Panorama version has never heard of my graphics card 
or my monitor. SNAP runs this perfectly on the PCI board. (And thanks for 
the update on getting sufficiently old video cards; much as I hate buying 
computer equipment on eBay, it looks like the thing to do.)

BTW, any way of rectifying the device database in Panorama to recognize my
equipment?


Second, this system does not choose to show JPEG files. (Probably any 
other graphics format either; experiments are slow, so I haven't done a 
lot.) Bring one up in PMJPEG or PMVIEW (any of 3 very distinct versions of
it): it will almost always work. Get a bunch of them active, select them 
in the Task List, hit Show: either they all come up very quickly, or the 
process stops short AND the system is hung, dead, till you hit the 
hardware Reset. Simply loading a single file into a single instance of one
of the programs will also hang on occasion. It can hang in the middle of 
painting the screen, though usually not.

This is inconvenient. 

In this case it doesn't help to swap the graphics.

The process runs fine on my old P4P800 mobo running eCS 1.0 with SNAP 
driver. Haven't tried 1.0 on the new mobo; rather, tried it and it 
wouldn't run. Graphics also worked on my ASUS laptop (2006 vintage or so) 
running 1.2MR, and on my T43p running RC4.

It's sort of hard to isolate a villain out of this set of data. And surely
other people must sometimes look at JPEGs, and they don't seem to get this
problem. Any ideas, anyone?

 


-- 
Dan Drake
dd@dandrake.com
http://www.dandrake.com/

Dan Drake wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:25:21 UTC, Peter Brown
> <losepeteSPAM-ME-NOT@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think I've been fairly happy with Asus mainboards recently,
currently
>> using an M2N mainboard which comes in several variations including
some
>> with onboard video - these are AMD AM2 CPU socket mainboards
[...]
>> I gather the Panorama driver works with some later cards so you may
want
>> to check out what exactly that supports as well - presuming you have a
>> current Software Subscription.
> 
> Funny you should mention this, because I just bought a system with an
> M2N-E and Cool Graphics (HIS with Radeon 1650 chipset, PCI-E) running
> under 1.2MR, and have two nasty problems, graphics-related, one not
> dependent on the zowie graphics board. [...]

Dan is being nice and not mentioning this is the exact system I detailed
building on our company web log. Since we only do a basic install and do
not test DOS or Win32 unless requested this Panorama problem with windowed
applications slipped by. I figure this is a bug in Panorama and will be
fixed. If a Panorama developer would like to get involved with resolving
this please contact my company <os2support \a\t eracc \d\o\t com> or
contact Dan.

As for the multiple jpeg load + hang problem I am at a loss how to diagnose
that for Dan. So I suggested he bring it here where you folks can help. If
more heads get involved maybe we can figure out what is happening.

BTW, Dan, I found out you can report Panorama problems here:

http://trac.ecomstation.ru/Panorama/report/1

I was going to send you an e-mail about that today but since I saw your post
here first I'm putting it here. Do let me know how it goes when you try
2.0rc4 on your new system.

Gene Alexander
-- 
ERA Computers & Consulting

On Fri, 2 May 2008 18:50:39 UTC, Thorsten Schott <thorsch@any.net> wrote:

> Dan Drake wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:25:21 UTC, Peter Brown 
> .
> snip
> .
> > First, it wouldn't run a DOS window in the WPS. Yes, I need to do
that. It
> > shows a blank window, no text in it, a cursor, but no input of any
kind 
> 
> I have the same Problem with SNAP and an ATI X800GTO (AGP) on an ASUS 
> A8V Deluxe, and also if i use my new GraCa, a X850XT (PCIe), on a 
> Gigabyte GA-K8N SLi!
> 
> If i will use the Dos-Box, than must i use my very old ATI 9600pro on my 
> ASUS A8V Deluxe. With other Words, it is not a Panorama-Driver related 
> Problem! And it is not a new Problem.
> 
> > Second, this system does not choose to show JPEG files. (Probably any

> .
> snip
> .
> > other people must sometimes look at JPEGs, and they don't seem to get
this
> > problem. Any ideas, anyone?
> 
> I knows this Problem too! Try a new Installation of your System! This 
> has solved the Problem for me.

Oh, fun. (Isn't this the system you don't have to reinstall at intervals, 
unlike that thing that starts with a W? :)

Oh, well, I need to install RC4 anyway, to test it. Maybe my problems will
go away magically. Meanwhile, I think I can get another Radeon-equivalent 
PCI obsolete video card before they all disappear.


-- 
Dan Drake
dd@dandrake.com
http://www.dandrake.com/