RC4 and Java 1.3.1

Is anyone seeing a message about "cannot delete this file" when 
installing Java 1.3.1 on eCS 2.0 RC4? I'm also seeing it for the 
Developer's Toolkit.

I'm also seeing a disk space error when installing most IBM Installer 
apps, like the old PMView Pro or IBM Visual Age 3.0.

If you've got errors like this on RC4, let me know and I'll post a bug
report.
-- 
Expert Consulting for OS/2 and eComStation

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:15:05 UTC, "Neil Waldhauer"
<More@Spam.Please> 
wrote:

> Is anyone seeing a message about "cannot delete this file" when 
> installing Java 1.3.1 on eCS 2.0 RC4? I'm also seeing it for the 
> Developer's Toolkit.
> 
> I'm also seeing a disk space error when installing most IBM Installer 
> apps, like the old PMView Pro or IBM Visual Age 3.0.
> 
> If you've got errors like this on RC4, let me know and I'll post a bug
> report.

I expect that all of that is because you have "too much free disk 
space" available. The old PMView, and IBM VA 3.0 is almost guaranteed 
to be that problem.  Sometimes, you can work around that problem, by 
filling up the disk, so that the counters don't overflow, when the 
installer queries the amount of free space.

I guess I need to query why you want JAVA 1.3.1? I canned that, about 
4 years ago, and never regretted it, for a moment. Innotek JAVA (now 
1.4.2_09) works for everything that I have tried (which I will admit 
isn't a lot). I did have it installed, for a while, under eCS 1.2R, 
just to figure out how to get a version of JAVA to install to a 
bootAble CD (that works, but it is completely useless).

-- 
From the eComStation 2.0 RC2 of Doug Bissett
dougb007 at telus dot net
(Please make the obvious changes, to e-mail me)

Hi Neil, Doug et al.



Doug Bissett wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:15:05 UTC, "Neil Waldhauer"
<More@Spam.Please> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Is anyone seeing a message about "cannot delete this file"
when 
>> installing Java 1.3.1 on eCS 2.0 RC4? I'm also seeing it for the 
>> Developer's Toolkit.
>>
>> I'm also seeing a disk space error when installing most IBM Installer 
>> apps, like the old PMView Pro or IBM Visual Age 3.0.
>>
>> If you've got errors like this on RC4, let me know and I'll post a bug
>> report.
> 
> I expect that all of that is because you have "too much free disk 
> space" available. The old PMView, and IBM VA 3.0 is almost guaranteed

> to be that problem.  Sometimes, you can work around that problem, by 
> filling up the disk, so that the counters don't overflow, when the 
> installer queries the amount of free space.

I have had that same problem too. What Doug says has helped me out this 
same spot. When I'm on a "serious" install, I would create a Boot 
Partition of 1.5Gib, which is enough for eCs (which only seems to take 
up 595MiB) + other "hanger-oners" that may require the Boot Partition,

then an extra Partition say 2.1GiB in size for my Venerable Apps :-) 
Into that, I would put all my Sundial Stuff, DeScribe, Lotus Ssuite, 
PMView 2000 and anything else that may be worried about "too much free 
Disk Space" The balance of the Disk (that is assigned to eCs) I would 
create a partiton and call it "DATA" and place the newer apps like
OPen 
Office for eCs there, along with any stuff I've created.

Having said that, I have just done a "experimental" install on the 
lappie (IBM R40 - 25GiB HDD of which 15GiB is for eCs and BM)of the new 
RC4. After the install was finished, which included getting Genmac and 
WLAn going, and playing with APIC, the first thing I did was to install 
in the following order: DBExpert, DeScribe*, SSuite, Mesa, Clearlook, 
PMview Pro, THEN OO. Do that in reverse, and sometimes your above 
problem turns up. Ah! with DeScribe*, when installing, the Disk Space 
Indicator goes into ASCII writing. I install it into 
x:\programs\DeScribe. I get the usual "Insufficinet disk space [same 
message, different wording]" warning come up...I just ignore it, and 
DeScribe installs (and works) without a hitch.

Maybe this second method will work for you as well.
> 
> I guess I need to query why you want JAVA 1.3.1? I canned that, about 
> 4 years ago, and never regretted it, for a moment. Innotek JAVA (now 
> 1.4.2_09) works for everything that I have tried (which I will admit 
> isn't a lot). I did have it installed, for a while, under eCS 1.2R, 
> just to figure out how to get a version of JAVA to install to a 
> bootAble CD (that works, but it is completely useless).
> 

You need Java 1.3.1 for PolarBar Mailer, don't you? Is there a way of 
enabling PolarBar to work under our latest Java?

Hope that helps.

Regards

Hi Nicholas

Nicholas Lysaght wrote:
> Hi Neil, Doug et al.
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Bissett wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:15:05 UTC, "Neil Waldhauer"
<More@Spam.Please> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is anyone seeing a message about "cannot delete this
file" when 
>>> installing Java 1.3.1 on eCS 2.0 RC4? I'm also seeing it for the 
>>> Developer's Toolkit.
>>>
>>> I'm also seeing a disk space error when installing most IBM
Installer 
>>> apps, like the old PMView Pro or IBM Visual Age 3.0.
>>>
>>> If you've got errors like this on RC4, let me know and I'll post a
bug
>>> report.
>>
>> I expect that all of that is because you have "too much free disk

>> space" available. The old PMView, and IBM VA 3.0 is almost
guaranteed 
>> to be that problem.  Sometimes, you can work around that problem, by 
>> filling up the disk, so that the counters don't overflow, when the 
>> installer queries the amount of free space.
> 
> I have had that same problem too. What Doug says has helped me out this 
> same spot. When I'm on a "serious" install, I would create a Boot

> Partition of 1.5Gib, which is enough for eCs (which only seems to take 
> up 595MiB) + other "hanger-oners" that may require the Boot
Partition, 
> then an extra Partition say 2.1GiB in size for my Venerable Apps :-) 
> Into that, I would put all my Sundial Stuff, DeScribe, Lotus Ssuite, 
> PMView 2000 and anything else that may be worried about "too much free

> Disk Space" The balance of the Disk (that is assigned to eCs) I would

> create a partiton and call it "DATA" and place the newer apps
like OPen 
> Office for eCs there, along with any stuff I've created.
> 
> Having said that, I have just done a "experimental" install on
the 
> lappie (IBM R40 - 25GiB HDD of which 15GiB is for eCs and BM)of the new 
> RC4. After the install was finished, which included getting Genmac and 
> WLAn going, and playing with APIC, the first thing I did was to install 
> in the following order: DBExpert, DeScribe*, SSuite, Mesa, Clearlook, 
> PMview Pro, THEN OO. Do that in reverse, and sometimes your above 
> problem turns up. Ah! with DeScribe*, when installing, the Disk Space 
> Indicator goes into ASCII writing. I install it into 
> x:\programs\DeScribe. I get the usual "Insufficinet disk space [same 
> message, different wording]" warning come up...I just ignore it, and 
> DeScribe installs (and works) without a hitch.
> 
> Maybe this second method will work for you as well.
>>
>> I guess I need to query why you want JAVA 1.3.1? I canned that, about 
>> 4 years ago, and never regretted it, for a moment. Innotek JAVA (now 
>> 1.4.2_09) works for everything that I have tried (which I will admit 
>> isn't a lot). I did have it installed, for a while, under eCS 1.2R, 
>> just to figure out how to get a version of JAVA to install to a 
>> bootAble CD (that works, but it is completely useless).
>>
> 
> You need Java 1.3.1 for PolarBar Mailer, don't you? Is there a way of 
> enabling PolarBar to work under our latest Java?
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Regards
> 
> NICK



PolarBar works fine with java142 - or did last time I used it.

Regards

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:55:10 UTC, Nicholas Lysaght 
<nicholasrf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Could you please point me to the area where I can install it with Java142?
>  


Polarbar works best with Java 1.3.1, but it works with all OS/2 java. 
These command lines work from the polarbar directory. Java 1.1 has a 
timezone bug, due to changed rules for daylight saving time.

n:\p\java142\jre\bin\javaw.exe -cp .;polarbar.zip org.polarbar.mailer

n:\p\java141\jre\bin\javaw.exe -cp .;polarbar.zip org.polarbar.mailer

n:\java131\jre\bin\javaw.exe -cp .;polarbar.zip org.polarbar.mailer

n:\java11\bin\java -classpath .;polarbar.zip;n:\java11\lib\classes.zip
org.polarbar.mailer

and all of these installations (IBMCPP, Java 1.3.1)  worked before in 
RC3. I believe disk space could be the problem, but why now and not 
before?
-- 
Expert Consulting for OS/2 and eComStation