eCs 2.o rc4 and what's not working for me

Hi there,

After a day of trying I have finally installed eCs2.0rc4 on my asus A8N-E.

One or two things don't work:

SMP makes either the system crash, or gives a processor load of 99,9% on 
the first and 42.9% on the second. Seems I can't reproduce this anymore 
because now the system only crashes in different modules when SMP is 
enabled. For now I don't use SMP.

Odin can't locate the symbolic file. I know from the past I had to copy 
the os2krnlr.sym from \Os2\Pdpsi\Pmdf\Warp45 to the root of the system 
partition. This does not solve the problem.
There are a few apps I like to use which require Odin to be installed 
and operational. ( Filezilla and Dmsn ). It seems Odin has not been 
updated for a long time, is this project dead or can we aspect a working 
version for eCs2.0?

I did manage to install Eschemes 1.47 with sunny icons, pianolaunchpad 
and imagion. Also have Popa but did not install this yet because I need 
to figure out first if this is something I can use on a regular pc.

I also updated the acpi drivers but did not try to enable SMP.

Actually I am quite happy, okee it took a day to discover that SMP was 
the source of most trouble but with this disabled the system works.

Video is not quite okay, I have installed SNAP ( have a registered 
version ) while during installation I installed standard vga, but I 
can't set a refreshrate. The chip set is recognized correctly. Could be 
because my monitor ( Samsung Syncmaster 206BW ) is not supported / listed.

The following I did ( short and working version )

Install eCs2.0rc4
  -Standard VGA
  -No com or vcom
  -Selected most options
  -Changed default location of apps to another partition
  -No firewall ( have injoy )
  -No 4Os2
  -No PSI
  -No bonus apps ( have RsjCdr / Scanner is not supported )
  -Nforce4 NIC
  -No dial-in software ( direct cable connection )
  -Using DHCP

After completion
  -changed user name
  -Changed network settings
  -Installed printers

After reboot
  -Installed Nforce4 drivers
  -Change NIC to Nforce4
  -Installed SNAP
  -Installed eSchemes deluxe
  -Updated ACPI/APM
  -Deinstallation of Eworkplace
  -Installation of Xworkplace

Total times installed today : 8
Total times before seeing the light : 7 ( SMP causes system to crash )
Total time spent installing and reinstalling : 6 hours

Hi Arthur

Arthur wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> After a day of trying I have finally installed eCs2.0rc4 on my asus A8N-E.
> 
> One or two things don't work:
> 
> SMP makes either the system crash, or gives a processor load of 99,9% on 
> the first and 42.9% on the second. Seems I can't reproduce this anymore 
> because now the system only crashes in different modules when SMP is 
> enabled. For now I don't use SMP.
> 


I've had SMP working fairly happily on an A8N-E fitted with dualcore cpu 
here.

Digging around this looks like the line I was using in the config.sys 
file - you may need /!NOD on the end for acpi later than v2.22

PSD=ACPI.PSD /SMP /TMR /APIC /R /CD

Might be an idea to have a read of the acpi docs and do some 
experimenting if the above does not help  :-)


> Odin can't locate the symbolic file. I know from the past I had to copy 
> the os2krnlr.sym from \Os2\Pdpsi\Pmdf\Warp45 to the root of the system 
> partition. This does not solve the problem.
> There are a few apps I like to use which require Odin to be installed 
> and operational. ( Filezilla and Dmsn ). It seems Odin has not been 
> updated for a long time, is this project dead or can we aspect a working 
> version for eCs2.0?
> 
> I did manage to install Eschemes 1.47 with sunny icons, pianolaunchpad 
> and imagion. Also have Popa but did not install this yet because I need 
> to figure out first if this is something I can use on a regular pc.
> 
> I also updated the acpi drivers but did not try to enable SMP.
> 
> Actually I am quite happy, okee it took a day to discover that SMP was 
> the source of most trouble but with this disabled the system works.
> 
> Video is not quite okay, I have installed SNAP ( have a registered 
> version ) while during installation I installed standard vga, but I 
> can't set a refreshrate.


Standard VGA = 60Hz refresh rate; there is no option.


  The chip set is recognized correctly. Could be
> because my monitor ( Samsung Syncmaster 206BW ) is not supported / listed.
> 


I think it is because you selected standard vga. If the graphics chipset 
is supported use the SNAP accelerated driver if not use VESA (VBE 
fallback, use gaoption to set that) or the Panorama driver.

Is there a "Windows driver" (an INF file) for the monitor? If
"Yes" you 
can import that into SNAP.

Regards

Pete




> The following I did ( short and working version )
> 
> Install eCs2.0rc4
>  -Standard VGA
>  -No com or vcom
>  -Selected most options
>  -Changed default location of apps to another partition
>  -No firewall ( have injoy )
>  -No 4Os2
>  -No PSI
>  -No bonus apps ( have RsjCdr / Scanner is not supported )
>  -Nforce4 NIC
>  -No dial-in software ( direct cable connection )
>  -Using DHCP
> 
> After completion
>  -changed user name
>  -Changed network settings
>  -Installed printers
> 
> After reboot
>  -Installed Nforce4 drivers
>  -Change NIC to Nforce4
>  -Installed SNAP
>  -Installed eSchemes deluxe
>  -Updated ACPI/APM
>  -Deinstallation of Eworkplace
>  -Installation of Xworkplace
> 
> Total times installed today : 8
> Total times before seeing the light : 7 ( SMP causes system to crash )
> Total time spent installing and reinstalling : 6 hours
> 
> 

Peter Brown wrote:
> Hi Arthur
> 
> Arthur wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> After a day of trying I have finally installed eCs2.0rc4 on my asus 
>> A8N-E.
>>
>> One or two things don't work:
>>
>> SMP makes either the system crash, or gives a processor load of 99,9% 
>> on the first and 42.9% on the second. Seems I can't reproduce this 
>> anymore because now the system only crashes in different modules when 
>> SMP is enabled. For now I don't use SMP.
>>
> 
> 
> I've had SMP working fairly happily on an A8N-E fitted with dualcore cpu 
> here.
> 
> Digging around this looks like the line I was using in the config.sys 
> file - you may need /!NOD on the end for acpi later than v2.22
> 
> PSD=ACPI.PSD /SMP /TMR /APIC /R /CD

This evening I will give it a try. Did not have the energy left to 
continue trying to get it to work.

> 
> Might be an idea to have a read of the acpi docs and do some 
> experimenting if the above does not help  :-)

That's alway's a good starting point, sometimes it's quicker to shoot a 
message :-)

> 
> 
>> Odin can't locate the symbolic file. I know from the past I had to 
>> copy the os2krnlr.sym from \Os2\Pdpsi\Pmdf\Warp45 to the root of the 
>> system partition. This does not solve the problem.
>> There are a few apps I like to use which require Odin to be installed 
>> and operational. ( Filezilla and Dmsn ). It seems Odin has not been 
>> updated for a long time, is this project dead or can we aspect a 
>> working version for eCs2.0?
>>
>> I did manage to install Eschemes 1.47 with sunny icons, pianolaunchpad

>> and imagion. Also have Popa but did not install this yet because I 
>> need to figure out first if this is something I can use on a regular
pc.
>>
>> I also updated the acpi drivers but did not try to enable SMP.
>>
>> Actually I am quite happy, okee it took a day to discover that SMP was

>> the source of most trouble but with this disabled the system works.
>>
>> Video is not quite okay, I have installed SNAP ( have a registered 
>> version ) while during installation I installed standard vga, but I 
>> can't set a refreshrate.
> 
> 
> Standard VGA = 60Hz refresh rate; there is no option.

That's through. I installed SNAP later and SNAP sees it's a Samsung 
Syncmaster only the type I have is not listed. 60MHz should be enough. 
The monitor can support 75MHz but even wxp does not usse this.

> 
> 
>  The chip set is recognized correctly. Could be
>> because my monitor ( Samsung Syncmaster 206BW ) is not supported / 
>> listed.
>>
> 
> 
> I think it is because you selected standard vga. If the graphics chipset 
> is supported use the SNAP accelerated driver if not use VESA (VBE 
> fallback, use gaoption to set that) or the Panorama driver.
> 
> Is there a "Windows driver" (an INF file) for the monitor? If
"Yes" you 
> can import that into SNAP.

Okay, keeps me busy again figuring out how to do that :-)

Thanks for the tips. Acpi I will try this evening, have to go to work 
now. The inf I will look into later.


> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> The following I did ( short and working version )
>>
>> Install eCs2.0rc4
>>  -Standard VGA
>>  -No com or vcom
>>  -Selected most options
>>  -Changed default location of apps to another partition
>>  -No firewall ( have injoy )
>>  -No 4Os2
>>  -No PSI
>>  -No bonus apps ( have RsjCdr / Scanner is not supported )
>>  -Nforce4 NIC
>>  -No dial-in software ( direct cable connection )
>>  -Using DHCP
>>
>> After completion
>>  -changed user name
>>  -Changed network settings
>>  -Installed printers
>>
>> After reboot
>>  -Installed Nforce4 drivers
>>  -Change NIC to Nforce4
>>  -Installed SNAP
>>  -Installed eSchemes deluxe
>>  -Updated ACPI/APM
>>  -Deinstallation of Eworkplace
>>  -Installation of Xworkplace
>>
>> Total times installed today : 8
>> Total times before seeing the light : 7 ( SMP causes system to crash )
>> Total time spent installing and reinstalling : 6 hours
>>
>>

Arthur wrote:

>> PSD=ACPI.PSD /SMP /TMR /APIC /R /CD
> 
> This evening I will give it a try. Did not have the energy left to 
> continue trying to get it to work.

Okay, did give it a try, no success. The last driver loaded is the 
networkcard and than it stops with no activity, even alt-ctrl-del does 
not work anymore.

>> Might be an idea to have a read of the acpi docs and do some 
>> experimenting if the above does not help  :-)
> 
> That's alway's a good starting point, sometimes it's quicker to shoot a 
> message :-)

>> Standard VGA = 60Hz refresh rate; there is no option.

>> I think it is because you selected standard vga. If the graphics 
>> chipset is supported use the SNAP accelerated driver if not use VESA 
>> (VBE fallback, use gaoption to set that) or the Panorama driver.
>>
>> Is there a "Windows driver" (an INF file) for the monitor? If
"Yes" 
>> you can import that into SNAP.
> 
> Okay, keeps me busy again figuring out how to do that :-)

Did not go into this yet.

> 
> Thanks for the tips. Acpi I will try this evening, have to go to work 
> now. The inf I will look into later.
> 
> 
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> The following I did ( short and working version )
>>>
>>> Install eCs2.0rc4
>>>  -Standard VGA
>>>  -No com or vcom
>>>  -Selected most options
>>>  -Changed default location of apps to another partition
>>>  -No firewall ( have injoy )
>>>  -No 4Os2
>>>  -No PSI
>>>  -No bonus apps ( have RsjCdr / Scanner is not supported )
>>>  -Nforce4 NIC
>>>  -No dial-in software ( direct cable connection )
>>>  -Using DHCP
>>>
>>> After completion
>>>  -changed user name
>>>  -Changed network settings
>>>  -Installed printers
>>>
>>> After reboot
>>>  -Installed Nforce4 drivers
>>>  -Change NIC to Nforce4
>>>  -Installed SNAP
>>>  -Installed eSchemes deluxe
>>>  -Updated ACPI/APM
>>>  -Deinstallation of Eworkplace
>>>  -Installation of Xworkplace
>>>
>>> Total times installed today : 8
>>> Total times before seeing the light : 7 ( SMP causes system to
crash )
>>> Total time spent installing and reinstalling : 6 hours
>>>
>>>

Hi Arthur

Arthur wrote:
> Arthur wrote:
> 
>>> PSD=ACPI.PSD /SMP /TMR /APIC /R /CD
>>
>> This evening I will give it a try. Did not have the energy left to 
>> continue trying to get it to work.
> 
> Okay, did give it a try, no success. The last driver loaded is the 
> networkcard and than it stops with no activity, even alt-ctrl-del does 
> not work anymore.
>


That sounds like the /!NOD switch is missing from the above line?

Which version of acpi are you using - the 3.08 version (available in the 
betazone) should boot with this line:-

PSD=ACPI.PSD /SMP /TMR /APIC /R /CD /!NOD


The works here for the A8N-E - without the /!NOD bit the system does not 
boot.



If the above does not help:

Which nic driver are you using? - the choice is genmac or nveth.

You could try swapping to whichever you are not currently using to see 
if that helps.


I have also found it necessary to use the following config.sys line with 
my M2N mainboard:-

EARLYMEMINIT=TRUE

I can usually boot the M2N system without the above line but the audio 
drivers seem to overwrite the nveth nic driver if I do - I get audio but 
no network connections at all.



>>> Might be an idea to have a read of the acpi docs and do some 
>>> experimenting if the above does not help  :-)
>>
>> That's alway's a good starting point, sometimes it's quicker to shoot 
>> a message :-)
> 
>>> Standard VGA = 60Hz refresh rate; there is no option.
> 
>>> I think it is because you selected standard vga. If the graphics 
>>> chipset is supported use the SNAP accelerated driver if not use
VESA 
>>> (VBE fallback, use gaoption to set that) or the Panorama driver.
>>>
>>> Is there a "Windows driver" (an INF file) for the
monitor? If "Yes" 
>>> you can import that into SNAP.
>>
>> Okay, keeps me busy again figuring out how to do that :-)
> 
> Did not go into this yet.
> 
>>
>> Thanks for the tips. Acpi I will try this evening, have to go to work 
>> now. The inf I will look into later.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The following I did ( short and working version )
>>>>
>>>> Install eCs2.0rc4
>>>>  -Standard VGA
>>>>  -No com or vcom
>>>>  -Selected most options
>>>>  -Changed default location of apps to another partition
>>>>  -No firewall ( have injoy )
>>>>  -No 4Os2
>>>>  -No PSI
>>>>  -No bonus apps ( have RsjCdr / Scanner is not supported )
>>>>  -Nforce4 NIC
>>>>  -No dial-in software ( direct cable connection )
>>>>  -Using DHCP
>>>>
>>>> After completion
>>>>  -changed user name
>>>>  -Changed network settings
>>>>  -Installed printers
>>>>
>>>> After reboot
>>>>  -Installed Nforce4 drivers
>>>>  -Change NIC to Nforce4
>>>>  -Installed SNAP
>>>>  -Installed eSchemes deluxe
>>>>  -Updated ACPI/APM
>>>>  -Deinstallation of Eworkplace
>>>>  -Installation of Xworkplace
>>>>
>>>> Total times installed today : 8
>>>> Total times before seeing the light : 7 ( SMP causes system to
crash )
>>>> Total time spent installing and reinstalling : 6 hours
>>>>
>>>>